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Re: Scsi terminator placement...
« Reply #14 from previous page: March 15, 2006, 09:15:02 PM »
BTW, thanks for pointing out the resistors on the WE can be taken off, the manual doesn't clearly say that and I wasn't sure...
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Re: Scsi terminator placement...
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2006, 09:24:43 PM »
What I've never understood about the A2091 SCSI card, is: if you are using external devices via the DB29 connector AND internal SCSI devices, should you REMOVE the terminator resistors from the card itself (blue resistor pack near the SCSI connector)?  The card is in the CENTER of the SCSI chain in this setup:

EXTERNAL DEVICES <----> A2901 <----> Internal Devices

The resistor packs would have to be de-soldered and that would be a real pain.

I have heard conflicting information regarding the above question.

I have used the above SCSI chain for a long time (with the resistors in place).  It's mostly reliable, but once in a blue moon I get SCSI Checksum errors on my external drives (which go away if I reboot).
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Re: Scsi terminator placement...
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2006, 09:53:41 PM »
It's really quite simple: there must be exactly two ends of the SCSI bus and both must be terminated. Active termination is recommended, but on Fast SCSI you can also use passive terminators.
Of course, each of these ends may be the controller (HBA) or a drive, or the terminator may be integrated into the cable end or an external type. If you use both connectors on the HBA (internal and external), termination must be deactivated because the board is in the middle, not at one end.

Everything else, i.e. 'multiple chains' is complete crap. It might work, but it also might fall over tomorrow. I've seen quite a bit of messed up setups - some of them even working, but if you changed one single bit you were bust - that's where I was called usually. So better make it right from the start.

@ral-clan: if the resistors are soldered in, you can't use both connectors simultaneously. There are only two solutions: desolder and socket the resistor packs or use an internal/external adapter at the other end of the cable (disable term on all internal drives, of course). When the new external connector is not in use, use an external terminator plug.
 

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Re: Scsi terminator placement...
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2006, 04:06:34 PM »
Well, okay.  I might remove the SCSI resistor packs on the A2091.  But I need to know if I have the right ones identified.  In this picture:

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/download_photos/a2091_2_big.jpg

is RN1, RN2 and RN3 *all* SCSI terminator packs?

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Re: Scsi terminator placement...
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2006, 06:58:09 PM »
Looks pretty much like it. Terminator resistor packs are always 331/221, i.e. 330 Ohms to ground and 220 Ohms to term power: