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Offline doctorq

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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 08, 2006, 01:45:46 PM »
@klejserjr

Well, if you think the total expenses for making a new key is $2 then I should pay $2. If the costs for making a new code for MakeCD is $70, then I should pay $70. It's that simple.

As for the phrase "You lose the key to your $70 piece of software -- you pay $70?" keep this in mind... The software is FREE, it's the REGISTRATION that is priced at $70.
 

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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2006, 01:57:11 PM »
Users don't pay for keycodes. They pay for licenses. The keycode is just a means of validating the license. It's not what your money is actually paying for.

$70 worth of work in generating a keyfile? My god man, if it takes more than just a few keystrokes, someone needs to think seriously about changing professions!
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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2006, 02:02:58 PM »
@doctorq

Even though I'm beginning to suspect you're diliberatly messing with me now, I'll take the bait this one last time . . .

MakeCD is FREE? Cost of looking up a serial number is $70?

First -- MakeCD is NOT free -- it's commercial. Just because you're being "allowed" to test-drive it doesn't mean you OWN it.

Second -- While there certainly ARE costs associated with looking up a serial number, no company in their right mind would charge you for it (including Microsoft).

While you DO have a point in a "hard-line/no exceptions" sort of way -- it would be extremely bad business to follow that philosophy (unless you're selling soup, of course! ;-))

 

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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2006, 02:09:54 PM »
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Roj wrote:
Users don't pay for keycodes. They pay for licenses. The keycode is just a means of validating the license. It's not what your money is actually paying for....


I totally aggree, and furthermore, licensing/registration agreements are generally also stated in this fashion.  Having paid for the right to full use of, and upadating of, the software, then that is what must be provided by the software company.  The key code is an artifact of the software company.  The means of providing the software is designed by the software company, and they maintain a level of responsibility for that means.  
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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2006, 02:11:29 PM »
It was you that brought up the $70, not me, so don't bully me around with the figures you stated. IIRC the cost for registrating was more in the line of 50 DM, which is around 35 USD.

OK, maybe bad choice of words; MakeCD is not free, but public available so you have the chance to test it to see if it is a useful product to you. If you want to have the benefit of using ALL the features you have to pay the registration fee.

Anyway, forget it, I can't be bothered to waste more time on this crap.
 

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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2006, 02:11:34 PM »
I never asked for anything free.  I never asked for stolen codes.  In fact the only thing I am asking for is a way to contact the authors so I can talk about possible replacement options for the registration code.

My friend has searched for the code.  He was in the process of moving and things do just get lost in the shuffle.  I did confirm with David from HiSoft that for a purchase of that time the registration would be on paper and not printed on the disk or in a file.

Due to the registration process, the authors should have all of his information on file and be able to clearly establish that yes, in fact he is a registered and paid user of the software.

I am doing the legwork to get the registration code replaced.  Yes, I do have a motive, since I purchased all of his equipment, that software package comes with it.

In fact, I am strictly doing the legwork.  If necessary, they can deal directly with David on replacing the code.  I will provide him with the direction on how.

But I do like the car example.  If your car key breaks, you do not buy a new car.  You go to the dealer and buy a replacement key.  I'm just having trouble contacting the dealer.

I have nothing to hide.  I am not a thief nor a criminal.  And I would appreciate it if you would lighten up on the attacks and blind speculation.  I have been a member of the Amiga community since 1986.  I hate to see that companies have actually quit producing for Amiga due to it's "nasty" users.  But I am sure getting that feeling myself when I just ask for help contacting authors and feel like I'm thrown to the wolves.

If it is absolutely necessary, I *may* re-buy the software.  But I am not going to start out with that option.  I will seriously have to think about that too.  The cost of a new key is 66.53EUR or $79.54US.  That's a stiff penalty for loosing a scrap of paper.  Not to mention that more than $150 was paid for the original DAO version.

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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2006, 02:18:29 PM »
@docQ:

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Nominal fee or cost of a new registration code would be in order, but it doesn't seem like the original poster of this thread thinks he has to pay anything, and just wants a freebie.


I'm sorry, but after reading Jeff's original post, I can read nowhere he askes for a FREE replacement.
He says:
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The registration number itself has been lost over time. What can I do at this point to get a replacement/re-generation of the registration number?


The problem lies in the fact he gets no reply at all, not one saying he's got to buy a new licence, or a re-generation-fee or anything, just simply nothing. That, in itself is bad practice.
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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2006, 02:33:10 PM »
@all

Just my two cents worth:  Nothing wrong with requesting a replacement key.
No one should be expected to pay for it either.  I did the same thing with Miami
before Holger went into exile.  He was very helpful.  As far as pirated or cracked
software, I am sure most of us has used at least one pirated/cracked program
in our lifetime (not encouraging the practice) including those who believe you
should pay $10 for each digit of a replacement keycode.  So before we start
criticizing others for wanting to run a LEGALLY purchased piece of software, lets
make sure our systems and software librarys are "clean" before we preach.

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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2006, 04:45:18 PM »
In Amigaland you try and do the right thing and get shot down, steal the software and get shot down - YOU CANNOT WIN.

Just download a warez version of Makecd and be happy :-).
 

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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2006, 05:51:52 PM »
@doctorj

I already gave you a link to the mailing list, try it please.

A quote from a recent post by the author there (January 30):
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> I an a registered user of Make-CD and wonder where I find my "reg code"

It should be on the postcard that you got back when registering or - if
you bought MakeCD more recently - it was already included in the package
that you got.

If you cannot find either, please send me the details about your copy
including the preliminary key and serial number to me privately and
I'll send you a replacement.
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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2006, 06:21:24 PM »
I got that Golem.  I subscribed to the mailing lists last night.  I will send out a post this evening.

Thanks,
Jeff
 

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Re: Need MakeCD Registration Replaced - Can't contact Authors
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2006, 01:22:37 PM »
I was able to contact Patrick Ohly through the MakeCD mailing lists.

The issue has been resolved and the key replaced.

Thank you Golem for your suggestion.

-Jeff