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Offline Will-i-amTopic starter

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left shifted screen
« on: November 15, 2005, 02:16:46 PM »
I consolidated my A4000D by copying two HDs of stuff onto a single larger HD which was previously Amiga formatted and sold to me from ebay. Took awhile to get the various jumpers and all but finally it was done and I had freed up a plug for a CD drive... which also finally works. (YAY) but in the process I noted that the image on the screen had left shifted about 1/2" so that file lists in Opus lost the first couple of characters.
In some progs I could resize the window and move it to the right to reacquire the edge of the window, but some did not allow that and I just had to fake it. The monitor is a C= 1960 and the OS is 3.1. I tried the Horz phase control and the 'width' toggle but they changed the screen, and not the windows in the screen.
Since I had not changed any settings in consolidating the contents of the machine, merely copied them from one HD to another, what would cause this shift? I may not have gotten all the files moved over if at some point I got confused, but the attempt was made. But still, it is nice to have those first couple of letters of a word, so that I am seeing "Workbench" instead of "rkbench", likewise in reading my startup file it's good to know which lines have a ";" at the begining.
 

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Re: left shifted screen
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2005, 02:26:34 PM »
Does this happen if you boot with no startup sequence, or boot from a floppy disk?
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Re: left shifted screen
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2005, 02:32:57 PM »
Have you tried resetting the overscan for both graphics and text in Prefs?  I have had simmilar experiences more than once, but it was not something I could not fix with the monitor settings (depends on the monitor, and I have no experience w/1960), or with the Prefs/overscan settings.

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Re: left shifted screen
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2005, 02:35:46 PM »
You must have over written a file some how. If all else fails, you can try a little program called moned, However, be very, very careful with it.
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Re: left shifted screen
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2005, 02:40:49 PM »
Ja, it sounds like the ebay drive overscan prefs have been copied over your original overscan prefs. Try that first, 'cos it is the least fiddly.
 

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Re: left shifted screen
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2005, 06:09:09 PM »
Well, I will work on the above suggestions. I tried the overscan stuff and it did not help. I have fiddled enough with it to get workbench system: partition window looking better and in some cases I just make the window smaller.... the idea that the new drive got it's stuff copied onto the original drive files is upsetting but not impossible. If I got distracted enough to copy right to left instead of left to right in opus it could have happened.

One thing is probably significant: I cannot seem to make the background change in any of the windows. I went into MUI and got it's window to change appearances, but when I go into Prefs and try to change the appearance of the other windows nothing seems to happen. I get the same bland grey background. I suspect that since the original drive was the one in the machine at Atlantis/Philips their original setup was screwy. As I scroll thru the various directories I find Dopus in about three locations, MUI in a couple of locations and numerous directories called "Old" with backups of the 'S' directory. They clearly were not very methodical and probably had only a slight understanding of the Amiga OS. At least that's what it looks like.
 

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Re: left shifted screen
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2005, 07:32:54 PM »
Some install scripts make a backup of the startup-sequence and rename your old one to 'old' in case you make a mistake.
 

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Re: left shifted screen
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2005, 08:55:14 PM »
Might even be a problem w/ devs:system-config. In '94 (:-o boy, 's that really 12 years??) I wrote a tiny util that fixes that: FixPrefs (available on Aminet). Set Overscan Prefs first, verify that they really go to envarc: and if that doesn't do the trick, try FixPrefs.
 

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Re: left shifted screen
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2005, 09:05:35 PM »
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Well, I will work on the above suggestions. I tried the overscan stuff and it did not help. I have fiddled enough with it to get workbench system: partition window looking better and in some cases I just make the window smaller.... the idea that the new drive got it's stuff copied onto the original drive files is upsetting but not impossible. If I got distracted enough to copy right to left instead of left to right in opus it could have happened.

One thing is probably significant: I cannot seem to make the background change in any of the windows. I went into MUI and got it's window to change appearances, but when I go into Prefs and try to change the appearance of the other windows nothing seems to happen. I get the same bland grey background. I suspect that since the original drive was the one in the machine at Atlantis/Philips their original setup was screwy. As I scroll thru the various directories I find Dopus in about three locations, MUI in a couple of locations and numerous directories called "Old" with backups of the 'S' directory. They clearly were not very methodical and probably had only a slight understanding of the Amiga OS. At least that's what it looks like.


Sounds like a clean install is in order at this point to get rid of all the unwanted crap.
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Re: left shifted screen
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2005, 02:26:36 AM »
Boy I hope not! I've done quite a few on these machines thru the years and by now my install diskcs have seen happier days. The CD drive works okay, so I may just install os 3.9 off the cd. Who knows, that may be the fix! Except for the part about all them progs i have that break under OS 3.9... sigh. Decisions....
 

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Re: left shifted screen
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2005, 02:41:12 AM »
In addition to what others said it might be that there is a VGAOnly file missing from DEVS:Monitors where it used to be before but wasn't copied for some reason OR perhaps if it wasn't there before now it might be, so check that out.