Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: ATX PSU to A1200  (Read 1918 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline MarkAshleyTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2005
  • Posts: 319
    • Show only replies by MarkAshley
ATX PSU to A1200
« on: October 07, 2005, 06:20:45 PM »
According to the back of the Commodore PSU I am currently using, the pinout is as follows:

1. +5v (Yellow/Red)
2. Not Connected
3. +12v (Brown)
4. Signal Ground (Black)
5. -12v (White)

According to this page:
http://www.hardwarebook.net/connector/power/atxpower.html

the connection should go as follows:

Amiga - ATX
1 - 19
3 - 10
4 - 3
5 - 12

On the ATX connector I have measured the voltage across 10-3, 12-3 and 19-3, and confirmed them as +12v, -12v and +5v respectively.

However, when I measure across 3-4, 5-4 and 1-4 on the Amiga side, the voltages I measure are much, much lower (less than a volt).

I'm guessing that this is because there is no actual load on the PSU? Can I safely connect the Amiga power connector as described above, or will it blow up my A1200?

Thanks in advance
Mark
A1200
Blizzard 040/33/128MB
Mediator PCI
Voodoo 3000
All stuffed in to a D-BOX
 

Offline lopos

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Mar 2005
  • Posts: 250
    • Show only replies by lopos
Re: ATX PSU to A1200
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2005, 07:23:38 PM »
AFAIK, you need to put a load on it to get the right voltage reading.
 

Offline MarkAshleyTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2005
  • Posts: 319
    • Show only replies by MarkAshley
Re: ATX PSU to A1200
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2005, 08:00:38 PM »
That's what I thought. Now the tough question - do I take a chance and try it  :-?  :-?  :-?
A1200
Blizzard 040/33/128MB
Mediator PCI
Voodoo 3000
All stuffed in to a D-BOX
 

Offline iMacMiga

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Oct 2003
  • Posts: 69
    • Show only replies by iMacMiga
    • http://www.lincsamiga.org.uk/
Re: ATX PSU to A1200
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2005, 08:24:36 PM »
Here's a tip. I have a dead hard disk (the spindle is seized) that I used as dead load. You don't necessarily have to load the ATX power connector outputs, you only have to load the power supply so plugging a hard disk power cable into a hard disk (which when all said and done is low risk as you know that bit is wired up fine!!) and using that as load is a good dodge.
HOWEVER I've only ever modded AT and Mac PSUs which were hard-power, but I think the same rules apply for ATX.

I admire your caution. When I did my first AT -> A600 PSU mod i just wired it up, checked it looked about right and plugged it in :)
Mark Benson - Realist and Curmudgeon -
http://www.lincsamiga.org.uk/
A2000 040/25
A4000 060/50
Ultra-600 Project
A1200 \\\'C=Flash\\\' games machine
CD32
EFIKA 5200B
 

Offline MarkAshleyTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2005
  • Posts: 319
    • Show only replies by MarkAshley
Re: ATX PSU to A1200
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2005, 08:27:25 PM »
Sorry, I don't understand. You seem to be suggesting I use a hard disk to put a load on the ATX PSU in order to get a voltage reading? Well the ATX PSU was correctly reporting the voltage when I measured it.

Or were you suggesting I connect the hard drive to the Amiga PSU to put a load on in, then measure the voltage while it's powered up, thus allowing me to confirm that the pinout is correct?
A1200
Blizzard 040/33/128MB
Mediator PCI
Voodoo 3000
All stuffed in to a D-BOX
 

Offline orange

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2003
  • Posts: 2796
    • Show only replies by orange
Re: ATX PSU to A1200
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2005, 09:57:53 PM »
is your Amiga PSU lightweight? if so, its 'switching' type so it needs load.
You could try to measure voltages while its connected to Amiga, but it would be a lot easier just to check on several Internet sites and with someone willing to measure it, usually its quite safe to do as hardwarebook says (for eg.)
Better sorry than worry.
 

Offline Stedy

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2002
  • Posts: 259
    • Show only replies by Stedy
    • http://www.ianstedman.co.uk
Re: ATX PSU to A1200
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2005, 10:55:24 PM »
Hello Mark,

Did you connect pin 14 to pin 15 (PS-ON to GND)?

Without this connection the ATX PSU does not switch on the +5V outputs.


A guide with all you need to know on adding a PSU to your Amiga.


Bye,

Ian
 

Offline orange

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2003
  • Posts: 2796
    • Show only replies by orange
Re: ATX PSU to A1200
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2005, 11:26:08 PM »
he's got problem with reading AMIGA PSU output voltages, not the ATX ones (as I understood)
Better sorry than worry.
 

Offline MarkAshleyTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2005
  • Posts: 319
    • Show only replies by MarkAshley
Re: ATX PSU to A1200
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2005, 07:58:23 AM »
That's right Orange, it is the Amiga PSU I am having trouble measuring. And Ian, yes I have shorted pins 14 and 15 on the ATX supply to force it to power up.
A1200
Blizzard 040/33/128MB
Mediator PCI
Voodoo 3000
All stuffed in to a D-BOX
 

Offline MarkAshleyTopic starter

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2005
  • Posts: 319
    • Show only replies by MarkAshley
Re: ATX PSU to A1200
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2005, 08:29:57 AM »
Quote

orange wrote:
is your Amiga PSU lightweight? if so, its 'switching' type so it needs load.
You could try to measure voltages while its connected to Amiga, but it would be a lot easier just to check on several Internet sites and with someone willing to measure it, usually its quite safe to do as hardwarebook says (for eg.)


Yes it is a lightweight PSU. What a great idea measuring while it's connected, don't know why I didn't think of it!!! I had already chopped the cable so had the wires exposed. I just twisted them back together and measured across them while the Amiga was turned on. Sure enough, the schematics are correct, and the voltages are what I expected them to be. On the strength of this I went ahead and wired it up to the ATX supply.

The power light on my A1200 doesn't work, so let me tell you waiting for the kickstart screen was agonising - but sure enough it works :D :D :D

Thanks for your help Orange!! :)

Mark
A1200
Blizzard 040/33/128MB
Mediator PCI
Voodoo 3000
All stuffed in to a D-BOX
 

Offline Brian

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2003
  • Posts: 1604
    • Show only replies by Brian
    • http://www.syntaxsociety.se
Re: ATX PSU to A1200
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2005, 10:37:13 AM »
This link might help answerr your questions.