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Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2005, 08:16:41 PM »
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nagaflas wrote:
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mdma wrote:
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Bye bye OS4, bye bye MorphOS.

Hello AROS?


Looks to be the case. Without Apple's commitment to the PPC, we may as well consider it dead, because they will never make enough Morph boxes to sustain the Power PC.


I think bPlan will buy all the remaining G4 stock from Freescale, and then production will stop.  Only G4 based CPU's for embedded use will be made in future.

With bPlan owning all the G4's.  What will happen to Eyetech?
 

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Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2005, 08:16:52 PM »
iwas just gonna post this!

im so angry

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Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2005, 08:18:37 PM »
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Martin_Lee wrote:
iwas just gonna post this!

im so angry


Blame Microsoft.

If they hadn't decided on using PPC for the new xbox then IBM wouldn't have had enough of making desktop PPC's.  Apple had no choice but to go elsewhere.
 

Offline joemango

Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2005, 08:33:11 PM »
All this really means is cheaper, faster, cooler (temperature) macs.  I mean who really cares what machine-level code your computer runs, unless you're coding assembly - and if you are, get a life.  This way Apple doesn't have to develop entire motherboards, just firmware and OS, and they can get motherboards from any number of sources, with no manufacturing ramp-up penalty like Redhouse was talking about in his interview.

x86 Macs will still look cool and they will still have the same OS running on them.  Unless you are a developer, there is no downside.  Even then - can you complain about a better market share?

Besides, there is much more competition in the x86 arena than there ever was in the PPC world.  Intel, AMD, VIA all make x86 CPU's.  I doubt Jobs was stupid enough to sign an exclusivity agreement with Intel, so they can choose their sources.  Does IBM have a quad-core CPU in the works?  Don't think so.

Before you go calling me a fanboy, I must qualify that I was  all Amiga right up to 94 (still have my a3000) when I got my first tech job and have never paid for an Intel processor once since then.  I prefer AMD but will buy what gives more bang for the buck (which happens to be AMD64 right now).

Sorry if you bought an A1, but did any of you ever think that you would meet anyone in your neighborhood or workplace who even knew what it was?
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Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2005, 08:35:38 PM »
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mdma wrote:
I think bPlan will buy all the remaining G4 stock from Freescale, and then production will stop.  
With bPlan owning all the G4's.  What will happen to Eyetech?


Well, judging by Alans 20 questions, they'll just carry on with their non-amiga work.
 Almost every answer he mentions the small user base, add that to the 'no new A1 designs past the uA1-I and the XC', and the 'no production runs until we get a big order' etc etc , it doesn't look rosey. :-(

Then again, maybe Alan's just had an idea about recycling ibooks and powerbooks  :-?
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Offline whabang

Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2005, 08:38:24 PM »
If this isn't the final nail in the coffin of the PPC-market, then I don't know what...
Now all we need is Dell and Gateway making Mac-clones! :-D
Beating the dead horse since 2002.
 

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Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2005, 08:43:54 PM »
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If this isn't the final nail in the coffin of the PPC-market, then I don't know what...
Now all we need is Dell and Gateway making Mac-clones! :-D


I'd love it if Compaq did to Apple what they did to IBM 20 years ago! :-D
 

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Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2005, 09:17:57 PM »
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whabang wrote:
If this isn't the final nail in the coffin of the PPC-market, then I don't know what...
Now all we need is Dell and Gateway making Mac-clones! :-D


I'd love it if Compaq did to Apple what they did to IBM 20 years ago! :-D


It wouldn't be quite the same... Apple would still be able to sell their OS to the clone users :-)

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Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2005, 09:36:29 PM »
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mdma wrote:
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whabang wrote:
If this isn't the final nail in the coffin of the PPC-market, then I don't know what...
Now all we need is Dell and Gateway making Mac-clones! :-D


I'd love it if Compaq did to Apple what they did to IBM 20 years ago! :-D


It wouldn't be quite the same... Apple would still be able to sell their OS to the clone users :-)


:-D
 

Offline Martin_Lee

Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2005, 09:39:29 PM »
Well lets look the bright side...

we'll get faster laptops and maybe OSX can start to take over Windoze!

who knows we might have windozes apps running better on these {bleep}ing machines!

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Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2005, 09:40:49 PM »
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Martin_Lee wrote:
Well lets look the bright side...

we'll get faster laptops and maybe OSX can start to take over Windoze!

who knows we might have windozes apps running better on these {bleep}ing machines!


Well, WINE will be an easy port to these machines at least. :-)
 

Offline Martin_Lee

Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2005, 09:45:38 PM »
arrrggg the more i think about it the more it makes sense.

but i really dont like it!

RISC is just better! and Im guessing that PPC Macs will just be phased out, then what am i spose to do with my powerbook?

I was gonna buy a G5 this year but sod it! Im gonna wait to see if its a waste of money!

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Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2005, 09:53:00 PM »
I think this will hurt Apple in the short term, but might be okay in the long term. It'll also be the final nail for the OS4 line. I'm sure Hyperion are smacking their heads for not writing OS4 for the the Intel/AMD chips. Oh well.

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Offline bhoggett

Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2005, 09:54:52 PM »
Yoo-hoo!  


(Sorry, just couldn't resist it, dammit. ;-)
Bill Hoggett
 

Offline glitch

Re: It's true! Apple go x86!!!! :-o
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2005, 09:59:14 PM »
I have no more faith in Apple.  I mean, how many "about face's" are their users supposed to put up with?  Sure we've enjoyed the technical superiority (for about 15 minutes until the Wintel world catches up/surpasses) but it's about a philosophy as much as product.  The only people Apple/Jobs are serving are their shareholders!  The Amiga has been able to tag along on the anti-x86 wagon, but I have some very serious doubts about the PPC and it being relegated to nothing more than an embedded processor now as others have mentioned...

-G