Pegasos & AmigaOne benchmarks.

[bbrv]

Posted to ANN where this discussion started:

Amigaone v Peg  Benchmark : Comment 142 of 142

Posted by bbrv (212.198.0.93) on 09-Mar-2003 06:27:27

In Reply to Comment 141:
   
Good Morning...just had the chance to catch up on this thread.  The issue was NEVER G3 vs. G4.  The issue was application oriented performance -- what you could do and how well you could do it.  Processing speeds as an end in themselves can only find amusement with a crowd of integrated circuit engineers.  Detrackers and malcontents have twisted the original post to mean something different than what was stated.  Strobe's post just above is in the proper vein for a "real" discussion that begins with system performance while really "doing" something.  :-)  Gunne too has posted well here.
 
Please read our original comment again and if you are so inclined, please feel free to continue this discussion by email with us if you so desire.
 
 Thanks and best regards,
 
 Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck
 Genesi


  ;-)

Note: Stobe's post here is correct too!

[poweramiga2002]

Who realy cares about the peg comes from dce so dont expect any warenty or if you do expect to wait a least 2 years b4 you get your comp back  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P

[Alkemyst]

@bbrv

Quote from amiga.org (http://amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=44024):
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The April2 brings the Articia fully to the performance levels it claims to achieve. We have purchased the remaining worldwide supply of the old Articias and will make 400 more Pegasos main boards with the G3 CPU. Our G3 Pegasos performs better than the G4 Teron with the Articia. This will be common knowledge soon (let the others understand this on their own our word will stand
as testimony to our knowledge and skill)

[bbrv]

Hi Alkemyst...no need to do double work...;-)

Keep reading the rest of the thread on ANN!

:-D

Best regards,

Raquel and Bill :-)

[bbrv]

:lol:

Where have you been poweramiga?

We have swapped out more than 100 Pegasos Betatesters already...;-)

Actually, we will be at DCE in a couple of weeks and we will see what we can work out with Thomas for old Phase V/DCE boards that have been returned.

Have a great day!

Raquel and Bill :-)

[Alkemyst]

by bbrv on 2003/3/9 12:57:29

Hi Alkemyst...no need to do double work...

Keep reading the rest of the thread on ANN!

Alot of ppl dont read ANN.

[Targhan]

I know a lot of people wanted some benchmarks from both sides(including BBRV), but if you ask me--the whole thing is an exercise in futility.  Why? Well, the only fair way to test these systems is with AmiGOD.

Then, you have the real "Amiga vs. Amiga" benchmarks.  Until such time as AmigaOS4 shows up, A1 should be with-held from such tests.  If it can't run Amiga apps--it's not an Amiga.

I am not ragging on the A1 hardware, but at this point you might as well test the speed of a UniVac for all the good testing an A1 would do.  Give Hyperion some time to get AmigaOS4 out, then test them all with amigod, syspeed, or whatever speed tool can be found on the aminet.

[JoannaK]

Alkemyst wrote:

Alot of ppl dont read ANN.

So, give them a Link to follow.  Copying a single post (or part of it) out of context is not alays best opinion as it can cause misunderstandings and unnecessary flamewars.

And what about those who can't understand what they are reading? In these times those seem to be the biggest problem around  :-P

[Alkemyst]

by JoannaK on 2003/3/9 19:36:15


Quote:



Alkemyst wrote:

Alot of ppl dont read ANN.




So, give them a Link to follow. Copying a single post (or part of it) out of context is not alays best opinion as it can cause misunderstandings and unnecessary flamewars.

And what about those who can't understand what they are reading? In these times those seem to be the biggest problem around

It was in context to what BBRV just said here.

[downix]

It was in context to what BBRV just said here.

But you were the one that started it with a forum topic not more than 2 weeks ago.

[Alkemyst]

by downix on 2003/3/9 22:43:26


Quote:


It was in context to what BBRV just said here.




But you were the one that started it with a forum topic not more than 2 weeks ago.

So what your saying is from that time BB has not been responsible  for his own comments about the benchmarks.

Maybe you havent noticed but this is another thread.

He is now saying that he didnt say what he did say.

the proof was in the link.

But infact i didnt start it, BB Claims did.

[downix]

@Alkemyst

Nobody is claiming any of that, I pointed out that you made the original claim, pulling text out of context to push an agenda without providing a link to the original post in order for people to read that the comments posted were a responce to Ben Hermans.  That means, frankly, that you did the post just to mislead people and to generally troll.  And now you'll respond in like here, attempting to act all clean while blaming others for the problems of the world.  So go ahead, do it, I'm prepared.

[downix]

I just got the lowdown on the A1-G3-600 and Pegasos used for the tests:

The A1-G3-SE had a 133Mhz FSB
the Pegasos had a 100Mhz FSB

And the Pegasos kept up with a machine that had a 33% higher clockspeed for memory access.  Means that the tests were predominantly held in the L2 cache, and therefore do not deny nor support bbrv's original claims.

[Hammer]

[downix]

Why didn?t they set both motherboards to 133 Mhz (or 100 Mhz) FSB?

Neither board was set up to go against the other.  They were benchmarked seperately under different conditions.

IF BBRV?s claims are generalized in terms of scope then it would be countered by this specific benchmark scenario.

But they were not, they were focused on a specific section, responsiveness.  So, a CPU-bound benchmark will not reveal how well the I/O tasks are handled on each board, which is where responsiveness is measured.

[Alkemyst]

Nobody is claiming any of that, I pointed out that you made the original claim, pulling text out of context to push an agenda without providing a link to the original post in order for people to read that the comments posted were a responce to Ben Hermans. That means, frankly, that you did the post just to mislead people and to generally troll. And now you'll respond in like here, attempting to act all clean while blaming others for the problems of the world. So go ahead, do it, I'm prepared.

Wrong! i did post the link to where it came from but you have forgotten.

Here http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1438

The link to where it came from is just before my Sig
 
When have i said i blame  others for the problem of the world ?

Your really putting a hell of a lot of words into my mouth.