Commodore was the worst thing that happend to the Amiga

[minator]

Had the AIM alliance decided to put 68k compatibility mode into the PPC, in the same way intel kept the pentium compatible with the x86... I believe the PPC would have had an equal share of the desktop market by now.

The PowerPC was invented for Apple, they got 68K compatibility by doing it in software.  Doing it in hardware would of probably have proven as successful as Intel's attempt to do x86 compatibility in the Itanium (which they have removed because it's faster to do it in software) or the PPC 615.

The core of 68K PC market was flawed i.e. Motorola was unable to keep pace with the other CPU vendors in the desktop market. Screwing (cut&paste) up the ISA standards are one of the main factors why the customers don’t stick with a particular platform. Motorola use to have PC vendors such as HP, DEC and SUN building 68K based workstations.

No, they did their own in house RISC designs and the 68K couldn't keep up.
Motorola did do their own RISC design (the 88K series) but it never sold in sufficient numbers and died off.  Parts were reused in the PowerPC series though (the original PowerPC bus was straight ou of an 88K).

Intel also did a RISC design (the i860) but it never took off either.

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Remember that the Amiga was never about high CPU speeds, everything intensive was done by the chip-set, had they of survived that strategy most likely would have continued.

Commodore's failure though was all interal.  Had they of got the AAA + DSP machine out in the early 90's it would have been an absolute killer - and Hombre would have later killed it.  If they had buit an Amiga with that technology things could have turned out very different.

Read this interview, it appears to be from 1997, interesting stuff...

[TheMagicM]

Where are they now: "Irving Gould and Medhi Ali"

anyone know?

[cecilia]

didn't one of them die?

[bloodline]

cecilia wrote:
didn't one of them die?

Just wishful thinking.

[Doobrey]

HopperJF wrote:
The A1200 would have kicked ass as an 030 based 8Meg AAA machine for £399

 All that for £400 in the early 1990`s ??
Maybe £600-700 is a more realistic RRP for that spec at that time.

[Sprocki]

The bitter aspect is that Commodore was the best ever happened to the Amiga. Or can you name just one different holder/company that brought the Amiga into any better position than Commodore? No, you can't.

Sprocki wrote:
The bitter aspect is that Commodore was the best ever happened to the Amiga. Or can you name just one different holder/company that brought the Amiga into any better position than Commodore? No, you can't.

Microsoft

[BloatedOtter]

Sure, without Commodore no one would have ever heard of the Amiga, it would have remained one of those numerous promising projects that fail due to lack of funding. Commodore had the factories and the money to design, produce and market millions of Amiga computers, what do you want more?

Commodore, come back!

[DonnyEMU]

If it weren't for Commodore, the machine would have become the Atari ST and it would not have had a multi-tasking OS and it would be relegated to game system status..

[Holley]

MDMA - I'm pretty sure Microsoft did little to benefit the Amiga ... apart from MS Basic.  Maybe you should have read the post a little more carefully ;-)

You can play what-if all day long, it's all long gone now.  I like many non-Amiga Commodore products, and occationally wish things had turned out differently, but thats as far as I like going :-)

[Sprocki]

@ mdma

Why not http://www.rot-weiss-essen.de or http://www.coke.com/ ? They have at least _something_ to do with the Amiga even though it's only the colors.

[Seacoast]

MrZammler wrote:
Make that: "The Commodore Management..."

Yup. Remember the revolving door that was always open for presidents? I had friends at Amiga dealerships. A president would come in, start a sensible marketing plan like going after Apple's niche in the public schools, and then, just as things were beginning to click, there'd be a new president and the rug would be pulled out from under them. And usually it was the customers who got the worst of it. The same sort of cheesy business practices were applied to the WordPerfect people and, evidently, to NewTek. Commodore management never understood what they had. What they wanted was another C64 that would sell itself and channel them to Fort Knox overnight. They never understood that they had to build their market one brick at a time. They had the attention span of children and the company was always like a rat in a maze, bumping into walls, backtracking, running down passages where it had been before, then trying something else without ever getting an airborne view and establishing a road map that would lead to the great outdoors.

HB

[HopperJF]

Microsoft wouldn't have done anything good for the Amiga at all, they would have either made their own x86 systems running Windows under the name "Amiga" or done nothing at all.

[Darth_X]

HopperJF wrote:
Commodore did great until around 1991 when Irving Gould got there and AAA was cancelled

you mean Mehdi Ali, right?

[Acill]

I've wondered what happened to them myself. Does anyone know the true
answer?

[HopperJF]

Darth_X wrote:

HopperJF wrote:
Commodore did great until around 1991 when Irving Gould got there and AAA was cancelled

you mean Mehdi Ali, right?

Most likely  :-D
But IIRC Irving Gould did something quite silly as well, I just can't remember what?  :-?