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Re: Do G-Rex boards fry BPPC's????
« Reply #14 from previous page: March 03, 2005, 02:56:40 PM »
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keropi wrote:
damn....
but I could not care less about a 2nd DMA slot, all I want is to use a SOLO-1 sound card and the voodoo3...

Voodoo3 does not use busmaster anyway only the soundcard, ethernet and TVcards benefit from busmaster.
 

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Re: Do G-Rex boards fry BPPC's????
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2005, 03:25:04 PM »
@Keropi

The burned CD is updates of the software used for the G-Rex board. I happend to know since I was the one burning the CD, so now you know how my handwriting looks like :-D
 

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Re: Do G-Rex boards fry BPPC's????
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2005, 06:10:57 PM »
LOL doctorq , I can blackmail you somehow... !
 

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Re: Do G-Rex boards fry BPPC's????
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2005, 07:24:33 PM »
Just a notice for keropi.
Patient with his questions he is a newcomer to the amiga community . a pationate SWITCHER :banana:
he didn't knew what an amiga was before 5-6 months but is learning FAST!!! REALY FAST!
I belive that from now on he will help us more than we 'll help him ;-)
ViVa keropi , WELCOME to the straight road ! :angel:
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out of subject but I couldn't resist I had to write it somewere! :-D
 

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Re: Do G-Rex boards fry BPPC's????
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2005, 08:07:24 PM »
Short answerr, no G-Rex is not a deepfryer for BPPC cards, it's a peice of amiga hardware that connects to the BPPC. ;-)

Bur seriously, I would never buy a G-Rex since they have a tendancy to fry them selves and sometimes taking the BPPC, motherboard or both with them in their fall. Many of these fatalitys might have something to do with the louse connection for the G-Rex, I dunno. To mee it all seem like a very poor peice of hardware rushed on the market at it's time and now long forgotten and still lacking in drivers, support and/or warranty (yes even NEW boards are sold without warranty).

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Re: Do G-Rex boards fry BPPC's????
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2005, 08:21:48 PM »
@Brian:

Agreed. Grex 1200 is not a very well implemented design. The word is that the 4000 version(s) are much better. The same rule applies for Mediator, that I can confirm. :-)
 

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Re: Do G-Rex boards fry BPPC's????
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2005, 10:32:57 PM »
thanx for your kind words stormlord!  :-D  You have helped me a lot, and with dumb questions too...
I'm gonna take my chances and use it...
 

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Re: Do G-Rex boards fry BPPC's????
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2005, 05:49:15 AM »
@x56h34

I have to dissagree with you there, it's not fair to stamp the mediator with same lable of crappy design as the G-rex. I agree that the A1200 CPU slot isn't realy made to hold a big busscard but it's far better than G-rex's solusion of hanging the busscard onto a mini connector (not ment to handle anything like it) of a card hanging in the CPU slot.

Again with G-rex as with Mediator are both much more sturdy in their bigbox Amiga version(s).

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Re: Do G-Rex boards fry BPPC's????
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2005, 10:30:00 AM »
Both mediator ang Grex for the 1200 has advantages and disadvantages. Grex have the mecanical problem, mediator is more sturdy in this, but grex is faster and no memory swaping because of the local bus connector that is using (thanks to ppc implementation) but lack support. As far as 4000 both are sturdier and none of them has the penalty speed from swaping memory. My needs on classic hardware is running 3.9 if I want 4.0 I will go to to something like ACK or better A1. so my choice is Grex for 1200 and Mediator for 4000, and thats because both support V3 cards some decent but low end Sound card and a TV tuner card (not realy a "need"). On A1200 you can connect ethernet via pcmcia and the speed is OK for classic amiga needs.
 

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Re: Do G-Rex boards fry BPPC's????
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2005, 03:07:48 PM »
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I have to dissagree with you there, it's not fair to stamp the mediator with same lable of crappy design as the G-rex.


When I said "the same rule applies for Mediator" I meant that it is better in the A3000/A4000 flavor, compared to the A1200 version, and also better as far as functionality goes by all accounts.


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I agree that the A1200 CPU slot isn't realy made to hold a big busscard but it's far better than G-rex's solusion of hanging the busscard onto a mini connector (not ment to handle anything like it) of a card hanging in the CPU slot.


Grex is in theory a better design as far as what it was supposed to deliver and how it delivered the goods, however the lack of support totally killed it and of course the very poor design which requires a lot of effort by the user to install it correctly and securely.

Mediator 1200 is worse in theory as far as delivery goes and how it delivers, however it fits much better in your case, compared to Grex 1200. Fitting it inside your case is much easier. Mediator of today is also much better than the Grex of today, obviously because Grex support stopped. In conclusion, no matter how crappy Grex 1200 design is, I will always like it for the simple fact that it doesn't rely on the sorry 8mb ZII memory window, as the Mediator does. It's a real shame that DCE didn't make it 100% well and supported, however the general idea of Grex and how it works was a better plan than what the Mediator was.


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Again with G-rex as with Mediator are both much more sturdy in their bigbox Amiga version(s).


No question about this one. My point too, in the previous post. If anything, Mediator A3000/A4000 is better for not being crippled with the 8MB ZII memory window like the A1200 version.