Is AROS the future of the Amiga?

[DFergATL]

I hope it is the future or at least a close second.  I do wish OS4 all the best.  However, for me at least, I have been burnt twice.  Once when Commadore went bust and then when BeOS went belly up.  I simply find it hard to trust a coperation trying to put out a desktop OS.  There are so many things in the way.  In the case of the new Amiga, I think it is the hardware.  It is just so outdated and expensive.  It is unlikly that the scale of economics will ever allow them to compete price wise..  I honestly wish more of the Amiga community would take part in Aros, but that is just me...  If it were ready I would use it in a heartbeat.  If there was commerical software for it, I would buy it...  I am probably not the only one....  There are so many talented devlopers in this community.  Can you image what Aros would be like if more of them were working on it??  It would ROCK!!

[Karlos]

I love the way people assume stuff will just die off. I mean, how many people still use a classic? The writing was on the wall in 1993 that the platform was on a hiding to nowhere and yet plenty of people still have them and use them now, 12 years later.

The future of the amiga is diverse and multifaceted. In 2010 there will still be OS3.x users, AROS users, OS4 users, MOS users and any other variants that have appeared in the interim .

I don't expect the overall userbase of any of the above will be that big (although I hope to be proved wrong), but I bet they will all still exist.

[dammy]

by LinchpiN on 2005/2/9 13:11:19

I got a realtec RTL8129 PCI card... that chipset is supported right?

Unfortunetly, no.  Only RTL that is currently supported is 8029.  I will hope some kind Dev will port rtl8139, eventually.  So many chipsets, so little time.  The only new networking chipset, that I know of, is being worked on is under a Bounty #27, support for nForce2 NIC.  I do encourage everyone to either drop a few Euros in this or create a new bounty for a given chipset to make arosTCP more end user useful.

Dammy
TeamAROS

[bjjones37]

Amiga will die when my Amiga dies and I cannot replace it.  Atari will die when my Atari dies and I cannot replace it.  

My Timex-Sinclair 1000 died.  I ... don't think I'll replace that one. :-D

[bloodline]

bjjones37 wrote:
Amiga will die when my Amiga dies and I cannot replace it.  Atari will die when my Atari dies and I cannot replace it.  

My Timex-Sinclair 1000 died.  I ... don't think I'll replace that one. :-D

I haev two, very much alive ZX81's :-D

[bjjones37]

bloodline wrote:

bjjones37 wrote:
Amiga will die when my Amiga dies and I cannot replace it.  Atari will die when my Atari dies and I cannot replace it.  

My Timex-Sinclair 1000 died.  I ... don't think I'll replace that one. :-D

I haev two, very much alive ZX81's :-D

I still have a TS-1500 and a TS-2068.  What would the Sinclair equivalents of those be?

Ahem, oh yeah, AROS, lookin' good. :-D

[bloodline]

bjjones37 wrote:

bloodline wrote:

bjjones37 wrote:
Amiga will die when my Amiga dies and I cannot replace it.  Atari will die when my Atari dies and I cannot replace it.  

My Timex-Sinclair 1000 died.  I ... don't think I'll replace that one. :-D

I haev two, very much alive ZX81's :-D

I still have a TS-1500 and a TS-2068.  What would the Sinclair equivalents of those be?

Ahem, oh yeah, AROS, lookin' good. :-D

ZX Spectrums, I guess.

[alx]

I think that AROS is definitely the most likely to stay afloat - MorphOS has already hit very bad times, and the future of OS4 won't be secured until a lot more people can be convinced to buy into it.  The nature of an open-source project is to allow it to continue indefinitely.

However (and this might be a controversial view) I cannot see what will happen to AROS once they've reached the ability to perfectly emulate the OS3.1 API.  I personally think that open-source projects are great when there's a defined goal to reach (eg POSIX/Linux, Windows/ReactOS, Windows look'n'feel/KDE) but can reach problems when the time comes to add original functionality; with so many developers, its hard to make a clean break and start making completely novel features.  Perhaps they'll prove me wrong, but AmigaOS4, while a lot less likely to be kept alive, offers the best chance of a "future Amiga" IMHO.

[Rogue]

Am I missing something?

Yes.

[Karlos]

@Rogue

A limb or three if you're not careful with that double ended light sabre thingy :-D

[Brian Hoskins]

I was always dead set against AROS.  I've never liked the x86 architecture so wasn't too crazy about an "Amiga" which used x86 CPUs, and a part of me always viewed it as a crime against humanity to run AmigaOS on a PC anyway.

In October 2004 I saw a PC running AROS for the first time.  I have to say I was extremely impressed - it runs well, it's fast, and it looks to be shaping up quite well.

I also tried OS4 for the first time in October 2004, and I was  VERY impressed with that too!

Brian

[AmiBools]

The thing no one is taking about is programs, like web, email, user experience, AROS acts like AmigaOS3.1,
tiers no memory protection, no stack enlargement, no support for old programs, there no debugger integrated,
there no Java, no CSS support for your web browser, no opus5, it's uses less for every thing,
it's like having a desktop you can do any thing whit, no media player.

AmigaOS4.0 is just way better,

the only argument for AROS is that it runs on AMD/Intel, and I hate unstable PC's whit fan noise over 100db,
ten years from now there might be AROS to work whit, if it exists,

[Rogue]

A limb or three if you're not careful with that double ended light sabre thingy

Don't worry, I killed an undead Sith lord with that thing. I can handle it...

Too bad I still need to make my own noises :-)

[Karlos]

Rogue wrote:

Too bad I still need to make my own noises :-)

I'm sorry, I just got a mental picture of you then as the Star Wars Kid...

:roflmao:

[melott]

I see AROS as the natural progression .....
(I was against it before because of incompatability
with Classic Amiga)
But time marchs on and the old classic hardware is dying
of old age and just wearing out.
(I still love and use both of my Amigas)
Aros is gaining ground, adding new fearures almost every
day. When they solve the harddrive install problem I
think quite a few users will migrate over. It will be a slow
migration. Most of us have an old PC around not being
used (to slow for WinXP) and decide one day, 'What the Hell'
I'm going to take a look at AROS. Most will think its "Not
to Bad" and play around with it for awhile.
Thats the way most things work.. slow ... but, in the end
it will be that way.
After all it costs nothing to try, then you're probably
hooked.

[Damion]

AmiBools wrote:
The thing no one is taking about is programs, like web, email, user experience, AROS acts like AmigaOS3.1,
tiers no memory protection, no stack enlargement, no support for old programs, there no debugger integrated,
there no Java, no CSS support for your web browser, no opus5, it's uses less for every thing,
it's like having a desktop you can do any thing whit, no media player.

AmigaOS4.0 is just way better,

the only argument for AROS is that it runs on AMD/Intel, and I hate unstable PC's whit fan noise over 100db,
ten years from now there might be AROS to work whit, if it exists,

Any decent PC is totally stable and reasonably quiet, mine is  almost inaudible.

About AROS lacking things, just give it a bit of time, and think about what OS4 is lacking compared to other OS's, probably even SkyOS..  (what I'm saying is it's silly to compare them...considering the "grand picture")