The little things are pretty amazing about Linux.

[mrsad]

LinchpiN wrote:
Linux rox, the ONLY reason i dont use it anymore is due to the lack of DVD burning apps. Why bother using 3/4 programs when on Winblows I can use 1

K3B will get you there. The thing about linux is, you can anything on GUI and CLI, but you have to know how and what to use.

There are other things like the 'find' command that I'm sure DOS doesn't have.

DIR/S does what find does. :-D

[mrsad]

Sure! I had K3B installed, was burning CD's nice, and worked well. Maybe i should re-phrase it, not so much the burning but the compression, etc (making DVD 9 fit DVD 5 disks), im sorry Windows comes out tops.

ok, didn't read far enough in the thread the first time  8-)

you can do that stuff with DVD::Rip, this program is _hot_ but it is also immense and will get some time to learn.
but if you want to do stuff with dvd's this is the tool that does it all.

[vpamicue]

I agree on one fact I do not like GNome or the Gnome add ins like Enlightenment because they are so unstable but, I use Mandrake 10.1 KDE 3.3 is my base window manager and it has never crashed. I also have never had an application install from a mdk.rpm crash. Mandrake has recovery install same as windows I presently run MS Office 2000 (including Frontpage and Access) and Adobe Acrobat under cross office with no problem. I only use windows for desktop support for Windows, I use Evolution 2.0 fro mail and contacts 100% Exchange Server compatible (it is also a clone of Outlook). GNU Cash imported my Quickbooks files and now works great. But what chased me away from Windows was 2 games one AmericasArmy was so slow under Windows,lag was just un beleivable. Under Linux no problems. The other was "Bass Tournement a great game that will not play on my WinXP setup but plays great under wine.
Maybe I was lucky in picking the right dist. but hey it works and serves my needs. :-D

[B00tDisk]

redrumloa wrote:
 DOS is weak, copying entire subfolders with their contents seems to be impossible.

D'oh!  Looks like that's strike three for our slugger!  XCOPY32!

[redrumloa]

B00tDisk wrote:
D'oh!  Looks like that's strike three for our slugger!  XCOPY32!

xcopy32 is not a dos command.

dir/s is almost, but not quite.

redrumloa wrote:

B00tDisk wrote:
D'oh!  Looks like that's strike three for our slugger!  XCOPY32!

xcopy32 is not a dos command.

dir/s is almost, but not quite.

DIR/S most certainly IS a DOS command!

I've got my trusty 486DX/33 with GUS and Tseng Labs VGA that i use for watching old demos right here in this room, and it runs MSDOS6.22 and DIR/S is working just fine, and so does XCOPY. :-D

XCOPY32 is Win95 upwards, or rather MSDOS7.0 upwards.

[adolescent]

redrumloa wrote:
xcopy32 is not a dos command.

XCOPY and XCOPY32 are certainly DOS commands (since DOS 3.3 at least).  IIRC, XCOPY32 was just a helper command only in 9x, but all versions of Windows should have XCOPY.

dir/s is almost, but not quite.

Almost?  DIR is a DOS command, and is largely unchanged since the 80s.  

EDIT: MDMA types faster than me.   :lol:

[HopperJF]

Hehe it is common knowledge that DIR is a DOS command, along with DIR/P, DIR /W, DIR /P /W etc. etc.

Ahem.
XCopy is also available for DOS, through the command. :-)

Going back on topic, that is indeed a relatively small matter but  impressive nontheless. Linux is indeed a very clever operating system, it is just a case of whether people can be bothered to master it to its full potential, and unfortunatel, Linux being Linux, the average joe home user does not find Linux quite user-friendly enough to be confident to do this just yet. But in the next few years...

[SHADES]

@ Guru Meditator!

>"Well, I'll be.. Shows how little I have used DOS I only ever used DOS when I had to. Oh well, that's just one thing. There are other things like the 'find' command that I'm sure DOS doesn't have. Alot of the tools in /proc are pretty cool. DOS is weak, copying entire subfolders with their contents seems to be impossible."


dir /s will do that

if you want to search c:\ for boot.ini as an example you would type dir /s c:\boot.ini
wild cards work too eg ... dir /s c:\*boot*
It will find all copies and tell you their locations.

Yeah, Xcopy does all files and subdirectory copying. Like the others have said.

[Waccoon]

UNIX is built on midium-level tools like scripting languages, and it simply rocks.  People who think UNIX is a hairy mess simply have never used it.

It'd be so nice if someone made a new "native" shell for Windows that would integrate into Explorer, without needing Cygwin.  Being able to type in shell commands in a status bar underneath all the icons would be soooooo nice.

C'mon, these are the things I want to see in the new AmigaOS!  I had fond memories of AmigaDOS when I started using MS-DOS, but I never realized how limited AmigaDOS was until I started writing scripts for Linux web servers.

[SHADES]

@ Waccoon
Well I think Linux/Unix is a complete mess and a hell of a learning curve and I use it every day!!

You could lease yourself out as a samba expert and not know about the rest if you wanted too.

It's not easy to configure, and there are so many programs to do one thing written by so many other that you're not sure what to do and the .man thing is so cryptic saying, go to this script configure this thing, then go to that script and do this thing and you do them both only to find they call 16 other scripts that all need the . man treatment that each have 4 other scripts to edit and AAARRGGHHH!

It's a nightmare.

Mind you once you have it working properly, it's great. Very stable.

[DethKnight]

Mind you once you have it working properly, it's great. Very stable.

Which is where I have my Arch-Linux installation at now.
{Surprisingly little pain to achieve my desired results}

Used to be a SuSE'er.then a Slack'er, then a YOPer, but *none* of them achieved "completion" for my personal usage req's.

Only arch has done it for me.
{I'm not trying to advocate distros, use what ya want}
But for me, I've discovered that CruxPPC, bring very similar to arch, may be the route I should take on my "PPC" machine when I finally get it.

For ppl familiar with amiga, who also use/wanna-use *nix,
I DO recommend Obsession's Gentoo Filemanager
{reduces my command-line needs}

Waccoon wrote:
UNIX is built on midium-level tools like scripting languages, and it simply rocks.  People who think UNIX is a hairy mess simply have never used it.

It'd be so nice if someone made a new "native" shell for Windows that would integrate into Explorer, without needing Cygwin.  Being able to type in shell commands in a status bar underneath all the icons would be soooooo nice.

I believe you will find what you are looking for here you get a choice of a Korn Shell or a C Shell.

Double post.... damn UNIX! ;-)

[Trev]

I like Windows' console subsystem, but I would like to see built-in support for backquotes. 'Cause this:

set hostname=`hostname`

is easier than this:

for /f %i in ('hostname') do @set hostname=%i

Obviously, hostname is a bad example, but it was simple. Hmmm. [browsing platform SDK] Looks like attaching to a console and preprocessing its input buffer is pretty simple. Time to play. . . .

Apart from [legally] recompiling the kernel, there's not much you can do in Linux that you can't do in Windows. So really, it all boils down to how much of your skill set matches up with the operating system's out-of-the-box features.

Trev