Christmas, family, friends, fieds, oh and a burglary...

[PMC]

That's what I meant in my pmail about you being an ispiration Leander.  I'd be furious and no doubt wanting to Black & Decker the kneecaps & elbows of the perpetrator/s to the pavement.

If the food's gone then it's either someone hungry or someone too lazy / skint to shop.  Possibly some skag head or something, trying to sell whatever they can to feed their habit?

Meanwhile the Police will be focussing on punishing every single speeding motorist with the full weight of the law, so less serious offences like burglary or assault which require actual detective work and possibly more paperwork too are ignored.  

I hate to troll (yes, am guilty as charged) on about these things and get all down on society, but I take a great deal of comfort in your ability to get your anger go.  I wish I was able to do the same.  So I'll end this post on a very positive note by saying it's an inspiration that someone can have {bleep} befall them, but remain optimistic.  

:pint:

[the_leander]

PMC wrote:
That's what I meant in my pmail about you being an ispiration Leander.  I'd be furious and no doubt wanting to Black & Decker the kneecaps & elbows of the perpetrator/s to the pavement.

You honestly think that if I were to meet them that they'd survive the encounter? Zen I may be but I'm also realistic in dealing with my feelings ;-)

If the food's gone then it's either someone hungry or someone too lazy / skint to shop.  Possibly some skag head or something, trying to sell whatever they can to feed their habit?

Funny you should mention that, one of the folks upstairs was recently evicted for growing pot...

Meanwhile the Police will be focussing on punishing every single speeding motorist with the full weight of the law, so less serious offences like burglary or assault which require actual detective work and possibly more paperwork too are ignored.  

I agree totally with this sentiment. The police of late do seem to take inordinate amounts of their time punishing to the fullest extent of the law minor offences, whilst major crap goes on virtually unpunished.

I hate to troll (yes, am guilty as charged) on about these things and get all down on society, but I take a great deal of comfort in your ability to get your anger go.  I wish I was able to do the same.  So I'll end this post on a very positive note by saying it's an inspiration that someone can have {bleep} befall them, but remain optimistic.  

That last part is simply me being lazy - remaining angry takes a lot of energy I would rather put into my son,  writing or drawing.

:pint:

I thought you'd never ask ;-)

[Speelgoedmannetje]

the_leander wrote:
You honestly think that if I were to meet them that they'd survive the encounter? Zen I may be but I'm also realistic in dealing with my feelings ;-)

Then you're honestly, not Zen
Zen is more like standing behind the line, seeing life as a whirlwind come by.

[x56h34]

I am speechless.

The most important thing in a situation like this is that no one gets hurt. Everything else is replaceable.

@red:

Wow. It happened while you guys were actually in the house! :-( Scary...

Too bad they decided to leave all those Prometheuses behind. (bad joke). ;-)

[the_leander]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

the_leander wrote:
You honestly think that if I were to meet them that they'd survive the encounter? Zen I may be but I'm also realistic in dealing with my feelings ;-)

Then you're honestly, not Zen
Zen is more like standing behind the line, seeing life as a whirlwind come by.

I try to be pragmatic about life, trying to be passive about as much as I can. Most of the time I succeed, but as I said I'm also realistic, if I were to meet the folks who did this to know them I would likely become very un passive toward them. As it stands however, I am never likely to meet them and, as such doing anything other then letting it go is pointless in the extreme. It took me many years to realise that last part.

Perhaps Zen was the wrong word, but tbh it was the only one that came to mind to describe how I got to this point of being able to simply let it go.

It is however something I aspire to.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

the_leander wrote:
It is however something I aspire to.

heh, yeah, me too,
but I think for zen, you have to become a different person (in fact, becoming a buddha), I mean, it's THAT thorough. I don't think you can be halfway zen, or choose this or that I'll be zen but not for that and that.

If you can understand what I'm writing here :lol:

[PMC]

the_leander wrote:

Perhaps Zen was the wrong word, but tbh it was the only one that came to mind to describe how I got to this point of being able to simply let it go.

It is however something I aspire to.

It is something I too aspire to.  Once upon a time, I was tolerant and understanding of people and their mistakes but not any longer.  Thing is, I've realised that when someone commits a thoughtless act that inconveniences me, the only person upset is me.  It would be nice to be without anger, hate, jealousy, fear and prejudice but it would be like asking for the Ying without the Yang...  (if you excuse the terminology).

Understanding and empathy help combat the negative, but it's a commodity not in endless supply.

[the_leander]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

the_leander wrote:
It is however something I aspire to.

heh, yeah, me too,
but I think for zen, you have to become a different person (in fact, becoming a buddha), I mean, it's THAT thorough. I don't think you can be halfway zen, or choose this or that I'll be zen but not for that and that.

If you can understand what I'm writing here :lol:

You may well have a point - I suspect however that I have far too many skeletons in my closet to deal with to ever reach such a height. But still I strive to better myself, and maintain some level of balance against my own instincts.

PMC wrote:
It is something I too aspire to. Once upon a time, I was tolerant and understanding of people and their mistakes but not any longer. Thing is, I've realised that when someone commits a thoughtless act that inconveniences me, the only person upset is me. It would be nice to be without anger, hate, jealousy, fear and prejudice but it would be like asking for the Ying without the Yang... (if you excuse the terminology).

Indeed.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

the_leander wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

the_leander wrote:
It is however something I aspire to.

heh, yeah, me too,
but I think for zen, you have to become a different person (in fact, becoming a buddha), I mean, it's THAT thorough. I don't think you can be halfway zen, or choose this or that I'll be zen but not for that and that.

If you can understand what I'm writing here :lol:

You may well have a point - I suspect however that I have far too many skeletons in my closet to deal with to ever reach such a height. But still I strive to better myself, and maintain some level of balance against my own instincts.

it's not AGAINST your own instincts, it's more like having an almost physical distance between your instincts, I mean, you have instincts, but you know them, predict them, and these do not affect your thoughts, and not your actions.

But I'm not a buddhist monk so, I can be wrong :-)

[the_leander]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

the_leander wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

the_leander wrote:
It is however something I aspire to.

heh, yeah, me too,
but I think for zen, you have to become a different person (in fact, becoming a buddha), I mean, it's THAT thorough. I don't think you can be halfway zen, or choose this or that I'll be zen but not for that and that.

If you can understand what I'm writing here :lol:

You may well have a point - I suspect however that I have far too many skeletons in my closet to deal with to ever reach such a height. But still I strive to better myself, and maintain some level of balance against my own instincts.

it's not AGAINST your own instincts, it's more like having an almost physical distance between your instincts, I mean, you have instincts, but you know them, predict them, and these do not affect your thoughts, and not your actions.

But I'm not a buddhist monk so, I can be wrong :-)

Oh trust me, it is against my instincts to not go out to hunt down the SOB's who broke in and give them a good kicking... But then my instincts are mostly screwed up. As you say: predict them, I do, which is why I decided early on that even if they did catch them, I would not want to get near them, for reasons given earlier.

In theory I would agree with you with respect to thoughts and actions, but I guess I'm not that good :-D