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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2004, 01:20:26 AM »
Man....why can't the companies doing 'next gen' Amiga stuff just all die with a little bit of dignity and selfrespect and let the platform be what it is today....

I'm amazed by people who think there's actually still money to be made with some silly red/white logo...

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2004, 01:21:17 AM »
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Did I miss something?  I didn't even know they had a web site. :-P
they don't. this has to be someone else.
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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2004, 01:42:01 AM »
They used to have a website, or at least a page that said "This is the future home of KMOS, Inc. Contact us for more information." Its still there, if you search for KMOS on google. If memory serves they also had a logo, but don't quote on me on that. Anecdotal reports said that messages sent to the email address on the site were bounced by the Amiga.com mail server, but that could be hearsay too.

Anyway, here is that cached google page:

"http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cache:kAVAxYxIoXwJ:www.kmos.com/+kmos&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

And by the way, I don't think anyone from KMOS or Amiga ever expressly stated KMOS.com was their official website. But then, when do they ever state anything at all. Take it with a pinch of salt, anyway.
 

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2004, 01:46:30 AM »
What a great start... seems like they follow the same footsteps of every previous Amiga owner.. sigh

I also thought that there was supposed to be an update on amiga.com sometime in september??
 

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2004, 03:14:30 AM »
Isn't it about time we found out who now owns the Amiga patents,
copyrights and logo?

I think someone should start selling Amiga goods using all the
brand names to see who pipes up and threatens court action.

:-D

Maybe we need a thread on who exactly owns what now, most people are
confused by who owns the Pegasos/Morphos brand, Amiga brand, Commodore
brand and logo and AmigaOS brands.

Gateway kept some stuff too didn't they!?
 

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2004, 03:33:17 AM »
All the patents and trademarks are under the names "Commodore", "Commodore UK" or "Amiga Technologies"

When a company is sold along with its IP, the names on the patents, trademarks etc are rarely changed to reflect the new owner.

So we must assume that all the Amiga IP has been sold to each progressive owner, however individual bits could have been sold off along the way.
 

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2004, 03:37:59 AM »
After reading this thread, both here and on other sites, my overwhelming question is.... so flippin what???

Playing devil's advocate, KMOS is a privately held company who isn't trying to sell anything or solicit investors so they don't need a flippin Web site.  To be frank, I'm honestly surprised at this point that even Amiga.com is still operational.  When OS 4 comes out, that'll be supported by Hyperion on their site (or another domain operated by them) so that leaves KMOS.com no reason whatsoever to exist....  Sounds like a {bleep}ing radio station's URL anyway...

Putting aside my unexplainable irritability as of late (which I am now starting to believe is probably diabetes-related) this is yet another perfect illustration of what's wrong with this community.  

Leave it to this community though to blow yet another completely pointless trivial detail to ape {bleep} proportions.  What's next?  I'll lay odds that before it's over with, someone starts dragging Ray Akey's name through the mud and slandering him (if not here, then ANN) when he has exactly jack {bleep} to do with it.

Say it with me people..... *sigh*
 

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2004, 03:46:57 AM »
Nah... Can't be Akey ... At least he can make Websites.. Kmos never had decent site during last 6 motnhs so it's highly unlikely he's been involved.
 

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2004, 03:58:26 AM »
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KMOS is a privately held company who isn't trying to sell anything or solicit investors so they don't need a flippin Web site...


Right, a company that does... nothing?
Sounds like the perfect people to be keepers of the Holy Grail. Perhaps they should just pass it all to Hyperion.
Least they DO stuff...
 

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2004, 04:04:26 AM »
I'm with wayne, here. who really cares about this so-called "web site"?
I prefer silence to lies.
and garry hare said kmos wouldn't have a web site. At least I heard him say so at AmiWest.

I say leave these people alone. they haven't made any promises, and have done nothing wrong. they have the good taste to shut the F up.
unlike some others.
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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2004, 04:54:50 AM »
Garry Hare said they werent planning on developing the website any further in the near future, so it is not so weird that there havent been much of a site there yet..
But i really think it is weird that the let the domain name drop, atleast if they gonna keep the name.

I think some of you people are acting very childish, when you seem to laugh and take pleasure whenever you see some tiny sign that suggest that Amiga inc or kmos being in trouble.

I for one hope that they are not in trouble, and that they get things sorted out soon.
 

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2004, 05:01:55 AM »
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Right, a company that does... nothing?
Sounds like the perfect people to be keepers of the Holy Grail. Perhaps they should just pass it all to Hyperion.
Least they DO stuff...

I just don't know how to respond to your comments.  I really, really don't.  Tell you what, why don't you go out tomorrow, buy a VW Beetle Turbo Convertible, then donate it to the National Transportation Safety Board for crash testing?  They would have much more use for it, nevermind the fact that you bought and paid for it.

AmigaOS belongs to KMOS.  KMOS paid for it, in one way or another (it's none of our damned business how or why, so PLEASE don't start beating that dead horse again).  If KMOS never, ever does a single thing with AmigaOS, it won't change a single solitary thing.  

We -- the community -- still wouldn't own it, and we would still not have any rights to say what they should and shouldn't do with it(beyond apparently all the neverending opinions of everyone around here anyway).

If you really want to have a say in the future of AmigaOS, pony up 5 mil or so and make them an offer.
 

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2004, 05:19:02 AM »
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I say leave these people alone. they haven't made any promises, and have done nothing wrong. they have the good taste to shut the F up.
unlike some others.


well, they kind of implied those pesky t-shirts would be shipped more than a month ago . . .
 

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2004, 07:12:45 AM »
People are reacting because when KMOS (in the person of Garry Hare) arrived on the scene we got the impression that the company was at least competent, if not completely clued in to the details. Many people, it seems, are hoping that's true, that this isn't just another outfit that, keeping to Amiga tradition, will do nothing with the Amiga IP except screw up.

I don't know how many other people feel this way, but since KMOS and Garry Hare's arrival, after hearing *his* side of various controversies and *his* explanations of events and his future plans, I've watched to see how close the reality reflects the words. I haven't seen anything yet that doesn't reinforce my initial skepticism.

The fact that the T-shirts still haven't been shipped (true, not a big deal in itself, but a test case for his credibility and his company's competance and intentions), no announcements or Web site updates made (even ones said to be coming, IIRC), and now the expiration of the domain registration seem to paint an increasingly sad picture.

I can't imagine a company intentionally letting its domain name get away. The cost is minimal and paying it keeps the domain out of others' hands even if the company has no immediate use for it. And I assume even without a Web presence, KMOS would be using e-mail and would want the domain name for that. Can a company operate these days, especially in tech-related markets, without e-mail? 'Explanations' by supporters that I've read seem quite naive or desperate. If KMOS intends to be a going concern, is there any good business reason to let the name go?

It's still possible that the registration can be salvaged by the company, depending on the registrar's policy.

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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2004, 07:28:39 AM »
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Re: KMOS domain expired.
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 01, 2004, 08:08:59 AM »
Y'know, "Return Of The Jedi," at least the Tatooine scenes, were filmed about 20 miles from my house.  I was an extra in it, but was always out-of-frame in the finished product (haven't seen the newly re-cut DVD yet.)  In order to keep the tourists at bay, it was announced that Richard Marquand was filming a low budget sci-fi knockoff called "Dark Harvest"  Everyone on set was wearing "Dark Harvest" tee-shirts, caps, jackets.  It was a deliberate deception, maintained to keep people from noticing what was really going on.  (Of course, the constand presence of R2-D2 and C3PO gave it away right off.)

Hey, what does KMOS stand for, anyway?  And how much do you think they might have to do to "stay under the radar?"  

Just a question.
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