Prometheus network cards

[Brian]

@tjaos

There are other PCI options than the Mediator, and if someone ask about a specific issue on that option you don't always have to leave replys advertising your own preffered option and trashtalking the option they've gone for.

Give it a break, please, you appear retarded.

For those who chuse a different road let them do so and if you can help them complete their objectives on that road then fine, reply. But if your only reason for replying is to promote a different option that they don't own and trashtalking other thing they do own then please shut the fawk up and go play with your self.

I too think the Mediator is by far the better option but I do wish to see Prometheus prosper as a cheaper PCI option for those with a smaller wallets and lesser needs.

[tjaoz]

@redrumloa

Welcome back rat.

Please stop this personal attacks. I think that you do not need to follows here the lack of culture behaviour of one German guy.

I guess you also think the Pegasos and all PC motherboards has a serious hardware bug in support of PCI busmastering? The driver does the same thing on a Pegasos and Amithlon.

No, you have not right. Reread my comment.

I wrote about Mediator/Prometheus OpenPCI driver. Not about driver for Amithlon or Pegasos. Amithlon and Pegasos require completely different control of the busmaster interface of the RTL8139 card. In Amithlon/Pegasos busmaster directs data over the PCI brige to the main system memory. In case of Mediator/Prometheus data are directed to the SDRAM/SGRAM of the Voodoo card.

I do not follows info about Amithlon or Pegasos driver versions. OpenPCI author wrote RTL8139 drivers on Amiga. And on Amiga (with Mediator) they work stable, period.

Oh yeah, and there is no OpenPCI for Mediator, try again.

It is, but not public. It is because OpenPCI for Mediator is illegal. You can read about it here:
http://www.vgr.com/mediator/press16-Apr-03.txt

[EzdineG]

It means that cards like: Fast Ethernet, sound, USB, TV tuner cannot be used in Prometheus.

Other than the obvious necessity of the proper driver, does this hold any truth?  I've got an SB Live! I've been thinking about trying out in the Prometheus, and could swear I'd seen a driver for it somewhere.  It's been a  "one of these days..." projects.

Anyone with info plz. let me know.
Adrian

[tjaoz]

@Brian,

Have you read my post, to which you refer?

I wrote about RTL8139 and RTL8029 support. I did not advertise anything.

[Brian]

@tjaoz

It means that cards like: Fast Ethernet, sound, USB, TV tuner cannot be used in Prometheus

We don't need to be reminded of what cards run on Mediator but not on Prometheus yet. I aswell as I belive most others in here can read between the lines but ok, you didn't say it out loud this time.

[redrumloa]

I've got an SB Live! I've been thinking about trying out in the Prometheus, and could swear I'd seen a driver for it somewhere.  It's been a  "one of these days..." projects.

Anyone with info plz. let me know.

Unlike others, i will always give it to you straight. There is no SB-Live! driver. I know of one developer who has been working on one(with a free prometheus provided by us), but as of yet he has not released anything to public.

[Piru]

@tjaoz

OpenPCI drivers for RTL8139 were ready long time ago. RTL8139 cards with OpenPCI drivers were reported as working stable on the Mediator busboards over two years ago.

That is bs. Liar.

[EzdineG]

redrumloa wrote:
Unlike others, i will always give it to you straight. There is no SB-Live! driver. I know of one developer who has been working on one(with a free prometheus provided by us), but as of yet he has not released anything to public.

Thanks for the low down and your efforts!
Adrian

[tjaoz]

@Liar

That is bs.

bs?
So, you want to tell that all these positive reports from the guy (Morgoth), who tested the OpenPCI RTL8139 driver in Mediator were fake?

And all these messages from the OpenPCI author (Titan) on the Mediator ML, where he wrote how fast RTL8139 works in Mediator with his OpenPCI 8139 driver, were fake too?

[tjaoz]

@Brian

We don't need to be reminded of what cards run on Mediator but not on Prometheus yet.

I didn't write "what cards run on Mediator but not on Prometheus yet." I wrote what PCI cards cannnot be used in Prometheus due to the bug in the Prometheus hardware.

I listed here only the most popular PCI cards (Fast Ethernet, sound, USB, TV tuner), which need busmastering to work. You can add more PCI cards to this list: SCSI controllers, UltraATA (33/66/100/133) controllers, FireWire/IEE1394 controllers, all Gigabit Ethernet controllers, PCI MPEG video hardware decoders. All these also require busmastering to work, so they also cannot be used in Prometheus.

[x56h34]

Yeah right, Morgoth...is that a character from Lord of the Rings or something?

Anyway, I wish a moderator spots your constant pile of lies and misinformation and bans you from this site, once and for all. Then you can visit amigakrakow.org and post all you want about how Mediator outperforms every other object in this universe, and beyond.

[tjaoz]

@x56h34

Yeah right, Morgoth...is that a character from Lord of the Rings or something?

No. This one: http://www.tbs-software.com/morgoth/contact.html

Anyway, I wish a moderator spots your constant pile of lies and misinformation and bans you from this site, once and for all. Then you can visit amigakrakow.org and post all you want about how Mediator outperforms every other object in this universe, and beyond.

If my posts are too complicated for you and you cannot understand what I write simply do not read them and stop trolling.

[x56h34]

@tjaoz:

No. This one: http://www.tbs-software.com/morgoth/contact.html

Oh, a polish fellow researcher. How convinient. So which one gets a higher salary at Elbox?

If my posts are too complicated for you and you cannot understand what I write simply do not read them and stop trolling.

I'm sorry, I'm not as advanced as Mediator at bus-mastering.

[rossv]

Hi,

I was wondering if I may ask some questions about the Prometheus, I'm a bit confused.

i) People keep telling me it has DMA problems, is this still true, or did it get fixed on the last boards?

ii) Does Matay still own/manufacture the boards, or was all stock sold to you?

Thanks,

Ross..

[redrumloa]

) People keep telling me it has DMA problems, is this still true, or did it get fixed on the last boards?

People=Tjoaz. Prometheus with the latest firmware has working DMA. However it's a moot point since there are no drivers currently available utilising this feature.

ii) Does Matay still own/manufacture the boards, or was all stock sold to you?

We bought out all existing stock.

[Piru]

@elbox pr office

So, you want to tell that all these positive reports from the guy (Morgoth), who tested the OpenPCI RTL8139 driver in Mediator were fake?

No. It wasn't all that stable though. I actually talked about the matter with Morgoth himself.

And all these messages from the OpenPCI author (Titan) on the Mediator ML, where he wrote how fast RTL8139 works in Mediator with his OpenPCI 8139 driver, were fake too?

No. Fast is not necessarily stable, however.

The openpci rtl8139 is based on my SANA2 driver framework. The driver had some serious bugs that were fixed after Mediator support was banned by Elbox, ergo the driver could not have worked stable then.

So yes, you claiming the driver was running stable over two years go is bs. Yes you tjaoz, liar.

@x56h34

Just because tjaoz names Morgoth reporting something, it a) does't mean tjaoz's talking the 100% truth b) doesn't mean the guy is with Elbox.

Morgoth is a very cool guy and nothing like this liar and cheater tjaoz.


Anyway, this thread is about Prometheus not Mediator. So this is hopefully my last OT post to this thread.