Reproduction of PPC cards possible??

[Holley]

I think you missed the point there, he was saying it would be possible to make Wup aware of a new card.  The AmiJoe was meant to be working, but shelved as it was uneconomical to produce, it'd certainly be a more realistic to make that than re-create the original PPC designs.

Of course none of this is going to happen as there just isn't a market for a classic accellerator any more - not with 2 new PPC platforms already in existance.  Perhaps making a hardware AGA emulator on a PCI card would be a more realistic taget? (could be built into the Catweasel Mk36 :-D).

[Kronos]

@Holley

How should WuP be made aware of the new card, when it can't run due to the lack of an 68k ....

There was no 68k on the AmiJOE, and a pairing between the the 68ec20 and an G3 would have served nothing excet comical purposes ....

Both PuP and WuP heavily rely on the dual-CPU setup (a setup that allready crippled the 603/4-CPUs) and the abilty to complety take over the PPC, which is hardly possible when you also need it to emulate the missing 68k.

[Argus]

@Kronos

such negativity man....this is a positive forum.  I for one disagree with your assertion about the 'crippled' 604e.  Mine runs quite nicely under WarpUPv5.

[Argus]

@Schoenfeld

Gruess Jens,

habe eine CyberstormPPC Karte schon sechs Jahre und kein Problem dabei.  Ich glaube man muss noch groesser Ventilator an die Karte befestigen um die Hitze des Prozessors usw. zu vermindern. Das habe ich schon seit Anfang getan.

[Framiga]

Caro Argus

la mamma non ti ha insegnato che è da maleducati, rispondere in una lingua non comprensibile da tutti?

[Kronos]

@Argus

It IS crippled compared to what the same CPU achieved in pure PPC-systems (early PPC-Macs, BeBox).

Sharing RAM between 2 incompatible CPUs and disabling L2-cache sure do no good....

The point is that there is absolutly no point to design a dual-CPU card with a G3/4 and an 68k, and that a pure PPC-cardwould require a real PPC-OS (and not those oddities known as PuP/WuP).

[Cyberus]

@ Argus

sì, perchè in tedesco?

Jeder spricht nicht Deutsches...
:lol:

[Piru]

Suu kii soppanaama, naamas on ku lusikka.

[Holley]

@Kronos - so you have dual PPC processors instead, one emulating a 68k processor (emulation could start at boot time), and one to run Wup on :-D

c'mon, this is pure speculation anyway ...

[Cyberus]

Piru wrote:
Suu kii soppanaama, naamas on ku lusikka.

One of the most difficult languages in the world....

I tried learning Estonian (close relative) for 6 months - impossible for an Englishman! And I'm meant to be ok at languages..  :-(

[jeffimix]

Hablas espanol?

[Wibbly]

@Cyberus

any language is impossible for Englishmen to learn. I guess it's the way we were schooled or something. I heard English is one of the most difficult languages to learn (I don't doubt it either) yet people from about every country around the world manage to do it. Thankfully Amiga appears to be an international language all of it's own  :lol:

On topic, of course PPC card reproduction is possible. Doesn't make it any more likely we'll see it happen though. Just wouldn't be enough takers to make it economically viable.

Det er liv

[Effy]

Also no technical knowledge here, but if the OS4 is PPC based, can´t it activate the Level2 cache compared to OS3.9 so it will boost up speed Just a question ...

[Framiga]

Piru

can i start to use my pizza and mandolino too? :-)

[Effy]

Пожалуйста попытайтесь поговорить английскую язык только. Это уже трудно достаточно...

ntente por favor hablar inglés solamente. Esto es ya bastante difícil...

Παρακαλώ προσπαθήστε να μιλήσετε τα αγγλικά μόνο. Αυτό είναι ήδη αρκετά δύσκολο...

Eat this for a change !!!

[X-ray]

Julle ouens moet ophou om met soveel taale te praat. Dit maak geen sin vir die ander mense en net-nou gaan ek vloek!!