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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #14 from previous page: August 10, 2004, 12:40:46 AM »
Hum,
why has no-one mentioned Wanadoo, which starts at £17.99 a Month?
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BTW the word on the street is that Tiscali is in financial trouble and consolidating their operations in the UK

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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2004, 11:13:12 AM »

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why has no-one mentioned Wanadoo, which starts at £17.99 a Month?


Well, they have low caps (capping is dire) and wanadoo/freeswerve are not particularly cheap.

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BTW the word on the street is that Tiscali is in financial trouble and consolidating their operations in the UK


The word on the street is wrong. Tiscali is the 3rd largest ISP in Europe and the fastest growing ISP in the U.K. They decided to get rid of some NON ISP loss making operations.
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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2004, 12:28:45 PM »
Hum,
i wonder why Tiscali are selling?
They plan to sell its operations in four European countries as part of an effort to repay an outstanding bond...
Bad news here.

Yeah, the lowest price (17.99) only does 2Gb per month...which is fine for gaming and occasional use - 30Gb is what a heavy user should go for...

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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2004, 01:06:38 PM »
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The word on the street is wrong. Tiscali is the 3rd largest ISP in Europe and the fastest growing ISP in the U.K. They decided to get rid of some NON ISP loss making operations.
 :-)


Well their share price seems to be at a 5 year low
Reuters

And their (incomplete) fundamentals don't look good...
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if 'the word on the street is wrong' how come they're seemingly in so much debt? I've just had a glance at the figures (they don't appear to trade on LSE), but what I could gather doesn't look good.
Many companies do operate with a large debt pile (NTL and TWT for example), but their share price hardly shows investor confidence...
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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2004, 05:47:14 PM »
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Yeah, the lowest price (17.99) only does 2Gb per month...which is fine for gaming and occasional use - 30Gb is what a heavy user should go for...


No, no! No caps at all! 2GB is for old grannies who occasionally email their nieces in Australia and check their pensions have gone in to their on line bank. It's NOT ok for gaming at all! 30GB will not be enough for even a moderate user - fedora ISO's are 5GB, divx's are a gig etc etc.

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if 'the word on the street is wrong' how come they're seemingly in so much debt? I've just had a glance at the figures (they don't appear to trade on LSE), but what I could gather doesn't look good.


Most telcos are laiden with debt. Look at France Telecom(Wanadoo) - who cares - it's customer service and value that count. I don't care who owns it or what deals they get up to.
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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2004, 06:48:45 PM »
Dont forget Force9's £14.99 packages which are good value.

 
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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2004, 06:56:26 PM »
Hum,
yeah, that`s the occasional use i ment.
Though i`ve a gut feeling that (say) playing quake only sends a small amount of  bytes of data. ( i imagine that 1.5 Mb are used up every hour with normal surfing as well).
 i think that the latency has fooled you into thinking that a lot more data has been sent/recieved with a broadband connection.

Anyone know the typical packet size of quake (1500byte/sec?)?
(which may add up to 5 mb per hour-->er, thats works out at 13 hours a day for fragging, with 2 Gb cap...)

Go for it granny...

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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2004, 08:40:09 PM »
Yeah, 33.6k modems used to be enough to play Quake over, it was all on the ping time!
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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2004, 08:49:09 PM »
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Anyone know the typical packet size of quake (1500byte/sec?)?
(which may add up to 5 mb per hour-->er, thats works out at 13 hours a day for fragging, with 2 Gb cap...)

Go for it granny...


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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2004, 11:31:26 PM »
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Anyone know the typical packet size of quake (1500byte/sec?)?


Quake! That's so last century, Grandad...  :-o

The average map for UT2k4 Onslought is around 10Mb and bandwidth required for play around 50Mb/hour it wouldn't too take long to reach your 2Gb cap.
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Re: Cheapest Broadband in UK?
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2004, 02:01:01 AM »
Hum,
i suppose that it depends on whether you are hosting and how many people are being hosted.

 i guess that these new fangled modern PC games do recommend a bandwidth of around 64Kbits/sec per player (if you are the server), which equates to around 8Kb/sec max, (but in reality  3-6Kb/sec sounds right ), thats  still about  100-200 hours per month on a 2 Gb cap...

Which isn`t obviously what granny wants...

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