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[Karlos]

tjaoz wrote:

Hello Karlos,

Could you please make an extra effort and view this thread from its beginning...

Who said I was specifically talking about this thread? As has been demonstrated, you crop up in any thread that has a possible elbox plug opportunity.

Now you see what Hodges wrote to my post. Note the personally offensive and aggressive mood of Hodges comment. See how this boy speaks about products of another company. See his posts. With his aggressive posts, Hodges shows only that his hatred of Elbox has become a psycho illness.

I also already pointed out that in the personal attack sense, youre as bad as each other once you both get going. Like "please miss, he started it..." schoolkids. Frickin grow up already.

As regards a 'rival product', I am not a producer but a USER of many Elbox products. I know from my experience how Elbox cares about the highest quality of these products, how they care about continuous updating of their software and how fast they respond to my emails sent to their support.

I never said you worked for elbox. I said you never fail to promote them and rubbish the competition at any given opportunity. Again, viewing your post history demonstrates this.

If you want to find people speaking here about 'rival product' check posts of Hodges and Boehmer. They ARE producers of Algor and Romulus. Algor/Romulus was not the topic of this thread BTW.

And at no point anywhere in this thread did you inferr their design was inferior to elbox's, right? :lol:

As regards my discussions about technical details of some products, I do not say I know them better than their designers...

Let actual testing confirm this, rather than simply assuming one is better than the other for whatever reason. Throwing techical info around and playing poker with numbers demonstrates absolutely nothing.

Boehmer and Hodges often publicly attack Elbox and Elbox products. And they always cry that they do it only because they are attacked by Elbox, which is not the case.

Unless you do start working for them :lol: ;-)

Sorry, no more responses today.
I'm going to see the match Wisla Krakow - Real Madrid. :-)

Good! It's reassuring to know you have other interests. Enjoy!

[adolescent]

@Cyberus

Did you bother to read all the threads you state tjaoz is attacking in?  If you had, you'd see that in the "Subway USB Availability?" thread (mine BTW), Michael from E3B directly attacked tjaoz without provocation or reason.  Tjaoz never even posted in the thread.

As was the thread posted by Acill "X-Surf II, what a scam...".  Tjaoz is mentioned by E3B buddies, as well as off topic post slagging Elbox by voxel, yet tjaoz never said a peep.  Also E3B plugs their product in this post.  Is this not exactly what you're accusing tjaoz of doing?

It goes both ways here.  I see Red doing it, tjaoz doing it, and E3B doing it.  It appears some people just don't like Elbox and tjoaz so they take everything he says as untrue and an attack when in fact most is perfectly correct.  (For instance, buddha vs. FastATA speed comparison in the "3 new products..." thread).  

[Cyberus]

adolescent wrote:
@Cyberus

Did you bother to read all the threads you state tjaoz is attacking in?

I didn't state tjaoz was attacking anywhere. Where do you get this from? Did you bother to read my post?

If you had, you'd see that in the "Subway USB Availability?" thread (mine BTW), Michael from E3B directly attacked tjaoz without provocation or reason.  Tjaoz never even posted in the thread.

Fair enough, I stand corrected.

As was the thread posted by Acill "X-Surf II, what a scam...".  Tjaoz is mentioned by E3B buddies, as well as off topic post slagging Elbox by voxel, yet tjaoz never said a peep.  Also E3B plugs their product in this post.  Is this not exactly what you're accusing tjaoz of doing?

I wasn't accusing tjaoz solely of plugging Elbox, but of seemingly never contributing anything except negativity to the forums. I was commenting on the fact that most regular users actually contribute something - but that tjaoz never feels the need to contribute anything unless Elbox or a rival are involved.
Once again I stand corrected as regards the thread though.

It goes both ways here.  I see Red doing it,

But my point is that he contributes to the forums. Not EVERY single post he makes is slagging Elbox and promoting his products is it?

tjaoz doing it, and E3B doing it.  It appears some people just don't like Elbox and tjoaz so they take everything he says as untrue and an attack when in fact most is perfectly correct.  (For instance, buddha vs. FastATA speed comparison in the "3 new products..." thread).  

I wasn't commenting on the validity of his statements, or lack thereof. I don't wish to commentate on something I know little about.
Once again - I was commenting on the fact that he never posts about anything else outside Elbox and its competitor's products. If you read my post you will see this is the case.

I can see that he has more people 'against him' than for him. But I'm not a bandwagon jumper. I supported DoomMaster before when he was taking flak, rather than join in the playground stuff :-)

I was merely making an observation, but not for any particular motive. I for one don't want to get drawn into silly arguments.

[redrumloa]

I see Red doing it

Please don't put me in this category. I have never jumped into an Elbox thread trying to promote a product I sell.

[adolescent]

redrumloa wrote:

I see Red doing it

Please don't put me in this category. I have never jumped into an Elbox thread trying to promote a product I sell.

Never?  Sure about that?  Maybe you just don't like to admit it.  1 minute of searching and I found one.  

"Are the Elbox tower and mediator products worth it?"

cough..cough...Prometheus...

ahem..cough.. announcement coming soon..

Cough..

Although, maybe you're not as forward as Chris and the E3B Buddies, you are quick to attack tjaoz's freedom of speech just as you are exersizing yours.

[redrumloa]

"Are the Elbox tower and mediator products worth it?"

Oh wow, that was before I was even selling the Prometheus. I was only in talks with Matay. Ok I guess I can give you that one. So I've once done that.

you are quick to attack tjaoz's freedom of speech just as you are exersizing yours.

Attacking freedom of speech? That would mean I am trying to deny someone freedom of speech, that is not true. I have made no attempts to silence Elbox's spokesperson. Freedom of speech does not give someone the right to slander a competitor's product unchallenged though. I don't think it's suprising that people react to outright lies and slander.

[mboehmer_e3b]

Hi Adolescent,

just a remark on this, to clarify the situation (and sorry for the long posting).

Although, maybe you're not as forward as Chris and the E3B Buddies, you are quick to attack tjaoz's freedom of speech just as you are exersizing yours.

Well, for me it is a difficult situation. On the one hand I try to keep out of discussions like these, but on the other hand I cannot sit and watch like someone (in this case Rat aka tjaoz) is attacking my work and my products by just spreading things which are not the truth. Even more, he did state that he doesn't own any of these products he's talking about, so he's talking about something he has no direct knowledge about.

If you take the time (decide your own, if it is worth it) and look closer on his posts, it is always the same way of proceeding:

- advertise Elb*x products
- claim that every competitor's product is of inferior quality
- give some pseudo technical explanations
- cite from former threads and mailings, but getting cites uncomplete or out of context

If this doesn't work out, then there are some further tricks:

- refer to bad Chris Hodges disabling his key
- claim that I'm the bad guy behind this action
- claim that I do attack him
- tell that people try to cut his freedom of speech

And, like this thread showed nicely again: if you confront him with clear questions on an issue, which doesn't fit into his point of view (in this case, technical "specialities" of some hardware), these questions are completely being ignored, and in turn, he returns to the last four points (key issue, bad Mr. E3B). Or, he will swap his opinion completely (like here, first advocating a superior fast FlashROM disk on the eFlash, then proposing to use IDE to CF adaptor which is far better).

If I look back in time, I see that I could have avoided all this troubles, discussions and FUD war by asking Chris Hodges not to open the Poseidon stack to other Classic Amiga hardware solutions. It was developped on E3B hardware from the beginning (SUBWAY, HIGHWAY), with strong cooperation and quite some work involved. Simply as that.
We decided (and I emphasize the word "we" in this context) to try a common effort and avoid the situation like it was with CyberGraphics and Picasso96, offering all Amiga Classic users one solution. We have now, as all Amiga Classic USB solutions are supported by one USB stack, and I would say that users did benefit from this quite a lot.

The outcome for me is not so amusing, as you can see on this thread. Especially one competitor offering a product which would be completely useless without Chris and my work is now hitting back whereever possible. For me, I have learned my lesson on this

Michael

[Schoenfeld]

Hi Michael,

I must admit that I hardly ever read amiga.org, but Bill Borsari (Tekmage) has pointed me to a thread about the Catweasel when we met at Amiwest.

Now that I see this tjaoz guy bashng my products, I guess I'll have to stop by every once in a while and correct certain lies he's spreading. Especially issues about my products being of inferior quality (that was the parallel thread with Red's three new products) is simply 'not nice'.

To put it like this: I'm not happy about him doing this. It's on the edge to being upset. However, he had one point that Red got wrong, and that's the PIO mode setting. Buddha was never advertised to be PIO mode 3 or 4. The timings he quoted were correct, but his interpretation of the ATAX3T9 standard is wrong, because you don't only have to see the distance between two beginning cycles, but also the length of a single cycle.

One reason for the extraordinarily high degree of compatibility of the Buddha with all kinds of harddrives and CD-Roms is a result of this software-controllable timing, which no controller before and after the Buddha has ever had.

On the other hand, he's speaking about 'clean design'. Knowing that he has never released a product, he has no detailed knowledge of how to design hardware. Yet, he speaks about it as if his words are the unquestionabe truth. This doesn't really make him sympathetic, especially to the more educated readers.
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Tjaoz,

if you want to see clean designs, look at my products, look at E3B's products, check the Haynie archives, then compare to your favourite company and find lots of flaws.

I have to give you the point of Red mis-interpreting the Buddha speed settings. None of them is any faster that you *can* go with PIO mode 0. Still, some of the settings use extremely short access times in order to lengthen the precharge time between two accesses, so certain requirements of PIO mode 0 and 1 are violated. Only clean PIO mode 2 IDE devices work with all timing settings of the Buddha.

I do not know where this mistake of yours originated from. It might be your limited knowledge of hardware design, but it might also be your will to bash my product in order to make a competing one look better.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, since this is the first time I'm seeing you trash on me and my work which is appreciated all over the world and beyond the borders of the Amiga market. However, now that we found out that you have limited knowledge about the details of my products, I'm suggesting that you simply do not spread *any* information about my products, neither positive, nor negative, because it's most likely going to be wrong. If you feel that something must be said, you're free to contact me through eMail or my contact form to notify me of such things.

Jens Schoenfeld

[adolescent]

@Michael

I understand your position, and the frustration you must feel.  But, what I was commenting about were quotes like...

P.S.: I guess we will see some comments from Mr. Rat aka Tjaoz aka ElBugs here on this message... treat them with the necessary attitude

...in threads that have nothing to do with tjaoz or Elbox at all.  So, in fact while complaining about the problem, you're adding to it by posting such nonsense.  I agree you should be able to correct misinformation as it appears.  But, have you ever heard the saying "Don't feed the trolls"?