Amiga 3400 prototype on Ebay

[that_punk_guy]

It's a fairly recent amendment to the T&C, IIRC. It's in eBay's interests, don't forget, to forbid Paypal charges.

As for that Miggy... Wow! :-)

[TheMagicM]

weirdami: you must not know too much about ebay.  It is AGAINST their policy..

I've already reported the post to Ebay.

Here's a link for reading..

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-surcharges.html

[redrumloa]

It is AGAINST their policy..

It is most certainly against their policy.

[Cyberus]

Against its policy it may be, and perhaps quite rightly so. But as anyone who sells on eBay will know, the PayPal charges can be quite high for cheaper items, especially when combined with listing fees etc.

Nevermind, I shan't be offering my buyers the opportunity to use PayPal from now on. I think eBay and PayPal are shooting themselves in the foot. Silly {bleep}s.

Since eBay acquired PayPal, can't they do anything about the fees? Oh no, I forgot, they're money-grabbing {bleep}s.

[Bezzen]

TheMagicM wrote:
It is AGAINST their policy..

Oh, that's nice to know. I've been shopping on ebay a couple of hundred times and I'd say I've had to pay a Paypal fee in 90% of the cases. Is this a new change to the user agreement or has it always been in there?

[Steady]

I have to say that the moment I see that the seller charges for paypal, they either get a cheque or I don't bid if there is no other choice.

PayPal is designed to charge the seller, not the buyer, for their services.

[redrumloa]

Since eBay acquired PayPal, can't they do anything about the fees?

While it would be nice, don't hold your breathe. PayPal is a convience, and the seller has to pay for the convience.

The fees are no different than accepting a credit card via a merchant account, the the fee amounts are almost identical to the percentage a merchant account deducts. In the US it is illegal for companies to charge a surcharge for buyers using credit cards. AFAIK PayPal isn't regulated yet, but it will be eventually and this law will prbably apply to it also.

I have some major issues with PayPal, but the fees are just the cost of doing business.

[Acill]

I agree if the seller is wanting to accept paypal the fee should be in him. I dont accept paypal any longer since they locked my account and took all the money in it after I was the victum of a scamm. The ruled that since I sent to a gift address and not the confirmed address I was in the wrong. Funny how they offer that service and screw you for using it if things go wrong!!

That A4000 is real neat. I've seen a few, but never tried o get one. I bought an A3000+ complete a couple years ago that has the same type of material that motherboard is made from. I would say its very real.

[TheMagicM]

I dont like Paypal charges either, but I accept them because of the convenience it provides.    I just dont think its cool to do that to the buyer.

Acill: what I did to avoid a issue like that was to create a seperate bank account strictly for Paypal money, as soon as someone buys something I transfer the cash to my paypal account...once its there, I move it into my personal account.. so my paypal bank account account only has maybe $1-$10 max in it, just enough to keep it open.  So if Paypal goes into my account to pull money out, there will be none.. so far I have not had *any* problems with scams or anything.

[TheMagicM]

Looks like the bidder didnt like me telling them it was illegal... so they used my name on there (Alex Bartonek) to let all ebayers know its my fault Paypal is not allowed. LOL!  

Oh well, not like I care.  I dont pass off any extra BS charges to my winning bidders.

[doctorq]

Well, the way I see it PayPal is a good thing to use to pay for goods bought on eBay, and I haven't got any problems with the fees that are posted on the various auction sites.

It make life a bit easier when paying, and the advantages as I see it is as follows:

1. Fast payment
2. Secure payment
3. No worries about checks going to the wrong person, or being lost in the mail.
4. No need to pay the bank the expensive fees for making international payments.

Yesterday I had to pay 25 EURO for making a bank transfer to Germany for a 200 EURO item. Had the seller had PayPal and charged the "normal" fee on PayPal transfers then I should have paid 210 EURO instead. Furthermore the person wouldn't have to wait for 5 days in order to get the money.

Therefore I don't mind paying the PayPal fees stated on the auction sites, because if eBay decides to take a look on this "problem" the outcome would be that the seller has to answer 100s of emails answering the same question, and in the end adding the fees as "shipping costs".

At least that's my point of view on this subject.

EDIT

Oh, and to the eBay auction shown it's a cool item. I have also seen the motherboard in real life, and looks very good indeed. By mistake I have made a new thread about this item, so I guess it should just be ignored or removed by moderator :-)

[that_punk_guy]

In the spirit of WYSIWYG, I have thus far refused to even charge for postage. :-)

(Or maybe that's just my marketing angle, ha ha.)

[Oli_hd]

Well it finished at an impressive (I think anyway) $809.99.
(About £436)
Total of 23 bids, 3190 hits

Not bad at all since I remember the Amiga Nyx going up on auction and getting that much (reserve not met), maybe its time for dave to relist it, hint

[Jope]

So if Paypal goes into my account to pull money out, there will be none.. so far I have not had *any* problems with scams or anything.

Heh, I see you've never experienced a negative balance on your bank account?-)

They will get their money, even if there's "nothing" in the account.

[TheMagicM]

Jope: LOL.. I wouldnt say that I havent experienced a negative balance.  I just keep almost nothing in there just in case.   If Paypal were to take $200 from my acct and I only had $10 or $20, my bank would cancel that withdrawl and they would get nothing.  It hasnt come down to that though..I havent been burned *yet*.  

[leewebb]

"Well it finished at an impressive (I think anyway) $809.99. (About £436)"

Tell me about it - lost the bugger by a measly $10 !!!

:-(