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X5000 support
« on: November 08, 2024, 04:11:30 PM »
I always thought of the X5000 as the most powerful of the next generation Amiga computers. But it's crippled by a lack of support. My Amiga NG interest goes in spurts. It's been years since I powered up my X5000. In the meantime I forget everything. Lately I decided to try some AmigaOS programming with my X5000. It's set up in my computer cabinet and all I have to do is push the power button. My boot drive was having validation problems, so I decided to reinstall. Shouldn't be too difficult, right? I have a special X5000 install CD. It always boots up okay. I went to the Hyperion website and there are six AmigaOS 4.1 updates. The second update can be installed easily using AmiUpdate. I believe there is a specific X5000 version. I can't install any update beyond Update 2. I spent many hours trying. The update documentation lists the supported systems and the X5000 isn't one of them. The only upgrade avenue is through A-Eon's Enhancer Software packages, which I purchased and installed.

I've had two other next generation Amigas: an AmigaOne Micro and a Sam 460. The Sam died (apparently) and I sold the non-functioning computer to somebody years ago. The Micro is a dependable little workhorse (it's little because I put it in a small case). I can install all the AmigaOS updates and everything else. But it's also crippled by lack of video card support and generally antiquated hardware. But like I said, it's dependable and I can always use it.

The included internet browsers with my X5000 can't handle any modern internet protocols. They are useless. I've tried Timberwolf, but it requires AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4. It's very slow on my micro.

So back to my original topic, are there any upgrade avenues available for the X5000 that I don't know about and/or haven't tried yet. Is there a way to install the Hyperion AmigaOS updates?
 

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Re: X5000 support
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2024, 04:14:37 PM »
I always thought of the X5000 as the most powerful of the next generation Amiga computers. But it's crippled by a lack of support. My Amiga NG interest goes in spurts. It's been years since I powered up my X5000. In the meantime I forget everything. Lately I decided to try some AmigaOS programming with my X5000. It's set up in my computer cabinet and all I have to do is push the power button. My boot drive was having validation problems, so I decided to reinstall. Shouldn't be too difficult, right? I have a special X5000 install CD. It always boots up okay. I went to the Hyperion website and there are six AmigaOS 4.1 updates. The second update can be installed easily using AmiUpdate. I believe there is a specific X5000 version. I can't install any update beyond Update 2. I spent many hours trying. The update documentation lists the supported systems and the X5000 isn't one of them. The only upgrade avenue is through A-Eon's Enhancer Software packages, which I purchased and installed.

I've had two other next generation Amigas: an AmigaOne Micro and a Sam 460. The Sam died (apparently) and I sold the non-functioning computer to somebody years ago. The Micro is a dependable little workhorse (it's little because I put it in a small case). I can install all the AmigaOS updates and everything else. But it's also crippled by lack of video card support and generally antiquated hardware. But like I said, it's dependable and I can always use it.

The included internet browsers with my X5000 can't handle any modern internet protocols. They are useless. I've tried Timberwolf, but it requires AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4. It's very slow on my micro.

So back to my original topic, are there any upgrade avenues available for the X5000 that I don't know about and/or haven't tried yet. Is there a way to install the Hyperion AmigaOS updates?

Worth a shout over on Hyperion’s forums. You do know Hyperion have been declared bankrupt right? So not sure what the support for their products will be like going forward…
 

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Re: X5000 support
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2024, 04:40:02 PM »
I always thought of the X5000 as the most powerful of the next generation Amiga computers. But it's crippled by a lack of support. My Amiga NG interest goes in spurts. It's been years since I powered up my X5000. In the meantime I forget everything. Lately I decided to try some AmigaOS programming with my X5000. It's set up in my computer cabinet and all I have to do is push the power button. My boot drive was having validation problems, so I decided to reinstall. Shouldn't be too difficult, right? I have a special X5000 install CD. It always boots up okay. I went to the Hyperion website and there are six AmigaOS 4.1 updates. The second update can be installed easily using AmiUpdate. I believe there is a specific X5000 version. I can't install any update beyond Update 2. I spent many hours trying. The update documentation lists the supported systems and the X5000 isn't one of them. The only upgrade avenue is through A-Eon's Enhancer Software packages, which I purchased and installed.

I've had two other next generation Amigas: an AmigaOne Micro and a Sam 460. The Sam died (apparently) and I sold the non-functioning computer to somebody years ago. The Micro is a dependable little workhorse (it's little because I put it in a small case). I can install all the AmigaOS updates and everything else. But it's also crippled by lack of video card support and generally antiquated hardware. But like I said, it's dependable and I can always use it.

The included internet browsers with my X5000 can't handle any modern internet protocols. They are useless. I've tried Timberwolf, but it requires AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4. It's very slow on my micro.

So back to my original topic, are there any upgrade avenues available for the X5000 that I don't know about and/or haven't tried yet. Is there a way to install the Hyperion AmigaOS updates?

Amiupdate is only way unless you download major updates (from Hyperions website). Even then your not going to get everything Amiupdate gives.
The old lead dev had it right. They were releasing updates quite regular and it was nice. However he has since gone and we are back to no updates for years.
As far as I'm aware, there are 2 updates (3rd party) that refuse to install. Server is dead. It should however update everything else.

A1 Micro, is rock solid as you say. I haven't switched it on for years. Due to reason you already gave. You have to either lose USB and have newer GF card or vise versa.
It sucks, :(.
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Re: X5000 support
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2024, 05:31:04 PM »
I forgot to mention that the reason AmigaOS 4.1 Update 3 (and beyond?) won't install looks like a Python problem. (Python 2.5?) Maybe a Python update could solve that problem. I haven't been able to find that, though.
 

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Re: X5000 support
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2024, 09:14:05 PM »
Why are you not installing AOS4.1 Final edition instead of the older AOS4.1 ?
looking at my Hyperion account, I have AmigaOS4.x folder with 6 updates (maybe that is for my AmigaOneXEG4) and AmigaOS4.1 Final Edition with 2 updates (for X-5000 and A1XEG4).

depending on your gfx card you might face some problems during reinstall since at that time the radeon driver was not aware of the newer card like Southern Island and you would have to install Enhancer 2 to get the correct driver (I know it is a big mess but thats the way it is).
 

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Re: X5000 support
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2024, 12:16:25 AM »
There are SO many updates. When I said I was trying to install AmigaOS4.1, I meant AmigaOS4.1 Final Edition and the six updates that followed. The installer for update 3 won't work on my X5000, but it does work on my AmigaOne Micro
 

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Re: X5000 support
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2024, 09:06:28 AM »
Amiga OS 4.0 has six updates! and was for the Eyetech amigaones

Amiga OS Final 4.1 has 2 (two) updates) there is a different version for the X5000.

You are mixing things up
« Last Edit: November 09, 2024, 09:08:50 AM by SACC-guy »