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Offline mechy

Re: IDE4Zorro2 with GVP 030 Combo board
« Reply #14 from previous page: February 07, 2018, 12:19:01 PM »
Quote from: curtis;835834
Well, put the Buddha card on order.

BTW, while I'm waiting for the Buddha card to make it across the "pond", does anyone have a GVP prep disk they'd be willing to make a copy of for me?  I've been trying to d/l the latest, but for some reason I can't seem to get a good write from any of my disk masher programs.  Always end up with an NDOS disk.  Would really like to have it for the Combo card, just in case...

Who me?  Paranoid?  Nah, I'm just working on an Amiga!!!


just use wb3.1 hdtoolbox if that is what you are after, works with any gvp device pretty much. just be sure to change the scsi.device to gvpscsi.device in the tooltypes or whatever you are working with. as others have said,nothing you really need on a gvp floppy.
 

Offline duga

Re: IDE4Zorro2 with GVP 030 Combo board
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2018, 06:43:37 PM »
Quote from: kirk_m;835836
Curtis,

Make sure you send Jens a message to flash your Buddha with the fixed firmware.  There are a lot of people, Acill and I included, whose cards don't work with anything other than the included Disk on Module.  I tried several IDE HDs and CDROMS, and it wouldn't even detect them.  Users over on A1K also have had the same experience.  There is a fix in the works, but, it requires sending the cards back to Germany to have him update the Xilinx chip for you.


Wrong. "The CPLD update is only required if you want to use the Fast-Z2 mode of the Z4 board. For all other uses, the CPLD code is fine, and only a flash update of the firmware may be needed."

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1160132&postcount=363
 

Offline kirk_m

Re: IDE4Zorro2 with GVP 030 Combo board
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2018, 06:53:05 PM »
Quote from: duga;835875
Wrong. "The CPLD update is only required if you want to use the Fast-Z2 mode of the Z4 board. For all other uses, the CPLD code is fine, and only a flash update of the firmware may be needed."

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1160132&postcount=363

Nevertheless, it's defective, regardless of the problem's origin.  I have two of them, and, they both do not function as they should.  I've tried them on both A2000s, an A3000, and my A4000.   It's not just me that is having the issue with multiple IDE HDs and CDs not working on it.  Several users over on A1K have tried in excess of 10 hard disks, only to have two of them work.  Nothing works on mine other than the DOM it came with.  It doesn't even detect the presence of the 5 or so HDs I've tried (all 20 year old drives that are known working on other IDE cards (FastATA 4000 MKVII, the A1K at-bus clone, the crappy IDE4Zorro card) on the Amiga with no issue).
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Offline duga

Re: IDE4Zorro2 with GVP 030 Combo board
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2018, 06:57:01 PM »
Quote from: kirk_m;835876
Nevertheless, it's defective, regardless of the problem's origin.  I have two of them, and, they both do not function as they should.  I've tried them on both A2000s, an A3000, and my A4000.   It's not just me that is having the issue with multiple IDE HDs and CDs not working on it.  Several users over on A1K have tried in excess of 10 hard disks, only to have two of them work.  Nothing works on mine other than the DOM it came with.  It doesn't even detect the presence of the 5 or so HDs I've tried (all 20 year old drives that are known working on other IDE cards (FastATA 4000 MKVII, the A1K at-bus clone, the crappy IDE4Zorro card) on the Amiga with no issue).


Of course, due to the update not being released yet.
 

Offline mechy

Re: IDE4Zorro2 with GVP 030 Combo board
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2018, 07:09:47 PM »
Quote from: curtis;835535
Thanks for the heads up on the Buddha ide card.  Had one of those WAY back when installed in an A500 with a Bodega Bay chassis.  Had a bit of trouble convincing it the CF cards were IDE, but finally got it working.  May look into that option.


You can use jens real ide adapter with the buddha,which makes any removeable set cf card appear as a fixed disk.
I think u can also use INDUSTRIAL cf's to get around this because they are set as default to fixed disk..

EXAMPLE HERE:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Transcend-Compact-Flash-Memory-Card-16GB-CF160-Industrial-Grade-FAT32-Formatted/391976174754?hash=item5b4399c4a2:g:5G8AAOSwYDZaedx1

not that i recommend ebay for cf's but industrial cards don't seem to be counterfeited so often.
 

Offline DStastny

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Re: IDE4Zorro2 with GVP 030 Combo board
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2018, 02:45:42 AM »
Can someone explain to me this issue with fast z2 of z4 mumbo jumbo.

Thanks
Doug
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: IDE4Zorro2 with GVP 030 Combo board
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2018, 03:43:08 AM »
Quote from: DStastny;835886
Can someone explain to me this issue with fast z2 of z4 mumbo jumbo.

Protocols supported by non-Commodore bus boards.

E.g., stuff like this:  http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1379
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos
 

Offline mechy

Re: IDE4Zorro2 with GVP 030 Combo board
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2018, 07:07:30 AM »
Quote from: DStastny;835886
Can someone explain to me this issue with fast z2 of z4 mumbo jumbo.

Thanks
Doug

It's basically non-standard overclocked zorro2 slot that breaks the rules. very few cards worked with it. they shouldn't of named it zorro IV since it wasn't from Commodore.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: IDE4Zorro2 with GVP 030 Combo board
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2018, 09:01:24 AM »
Fast ZII mode or ZorroIV is just an overclocked Zorro II without DMA capabilities.

It was a quick, inexpensive and faster design than ZorroII because it required no Buster chip (hence no DMA capabilities).

It is very usefull and backwards compatible with 95% of the Zorro II cards out there.

It has the advantage that if the ZII card is capable, it can run much faster than the normal specced ZII cards.

Cards that do not work are between others, the A2091 and several GVP SCSI interfaces.

Micronik, MacroSystem and Elbox implemented this ZIV non standard bus expansion in many of their busboard designs.

Also many companies created several ZII cards that could operate on this Fast Z2 mode: DCE, MacroSystem, Village Tronic, between others.
 

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Re: IDE4Zorro2 with GVP 030 Combo board
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2018, 12:21:56 PM »
Thanks everyone for the details and references.

Doug