Amiga 1200 with 2mb RAM vs SuperFX chip and Starfox/Starwing?

[Amiga_Nut]

Unfortunately I couldn't find exact figures from a verified source but did learn there are differences with SuperFX and FX2 and I think Star Fox is running on the first version, which is quoted as 10,000 polygons per second also more specifically. If the N64 is anything to go by then as soon as you do anything to the polygons the figure will drop drastically. Had the Amiga 1200 been configured with 1mb chip and 1mb fast I think you could have got something similar. Remember what the apparent polygon count on screen is could be achieved with further design shortcuts, coding competence can also make a huge difference.

If it was a game that was also converted to an unassisted Megadrive you could get a better idea of the CPU grunt. Talking of which I don't think anything less than a 28mhz 020 with some fast RAM could do Virtua Racing in true polygon based 3D as per the SVP chip of said game, not a stock as sold in shops 2mb only config. Some have stated the raw polygon processing power of the SVP was higher than the FX chip but that was on a site that did not differentiate the different clock speeds/performance of various SuperFX game cartridges sold.

For those who liked Guardian you might like the Windows game called G'tok.

[slaapliedje]

@psxphill



Guardian was a  3-D version of a Defender type game. It has awesome 'arcade' gameplay and  smooth controls on a stock A1200/CD32. Give it some fast ram and a 030  and it's rock solid. Yes, it doesn't have talking frogs, rabbits and  foxes and yes it doesn't have a pretentious plot but the gameplay is  awesome in a 'let's save the planet from invasion' kind of way (a bit  like the Resogun of its day). You have to avoid blowing up friendly  structures and there is good variation of enemy ships including boss  battles! A CD32 pad is a must for A1200 owners though.

Guardian  is under rated and Star Fox is definitely over rated IMHO. Same with  Bltiz Bombers vs BomberMan, The Great Giana Sisters vs Super Mario Bros.  and the same as Xtreme Racing vs SNES Mario Kart. There simply is very  little reason to idolise Nintendo if your an Amiga fan. Heck, Turrican 2  beats the hell out of Super Metroid too IMHO.

100% agree about the part about idolizing Nintendo.  I never understood why people thought they were so great, but then again, I went from Atari 2600, 800XL, Sega Master System (superior to NES in every way except software support (sadly the most important)), Sega Genesis (AKA Megadrive for the EU), Atari Mega STe, Atari Jaguar... after that a bunch of generic PC stuff, only current consoles I have are PS3 and PS4, which I rarely use.

Never was a big NES/SNES fan.  I have an Amiga 4000D and Falcon now, and they're still far more fun than a SNES or NES could give me.

[BozzerBigD]

It's something to do with the nostalga factor of North American gamers who are now in their 30s. They grew up with the NES, shout A LOT about how great the games were (really?) and the Europeans forget how horrendously late to market the NES was here and buy the hype! The SNES marginally better served the UK mainly due to the Street Fighter 2 bundle. Mario / Mario Kart / F-Zero / Metroid are simply not as good as the Americans remember them! Europeans should know better and leave the Mini-NES and Mini-SNES rehash consoles on the shelf!

[slaapliedje]

Yeah, I'm from North America, but I've pretty much always been an Atari / Sega person, though respected the Amiga from a far when I was younger.  Sadly had I known the whole bit about the A8 and Amiga and 2600 were all created by the same guy/group... probably would have gotten an Amiga instead of the Mega STe.  That would have been pre-AGA, so probably would have wound up with either an A2000 or A3000.  Oh well, live and learn.  My younger brother was the one who eventually became more of a console owner, but then wasn't really interested in the complexity of computers, so that's probably why, but even then he never really was a huge Nintendo fan boy.