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Offline kirk_m

Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #14 from previous page: September 22, 2017, 02:16:36 AM »
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I don't see it. I would say it is crazy to get generic e.g. Lenovo laptop for about $2500 that will depreciate in about 5 years to something you get get on ebay for about $100+free shipping. THAT is crazy. A $1000 on 060? You can get bottle of wine for it.

It is not obsolete, since it is WANTED, desired and cherished.

EDIT. I have this laptop, got it from ebay :). My wife has $3500 MSPR Levovo laptop, also got it from ebay :) after it depreciated "a little". It other words: two laptops for $5000 MSRP that today nobody cares about.


Sounds like someone needs to look up the definition of obsolete.   It has nothing to do with whether something is wanted, desired, or cherished.  It may have VALUE to those who would pay such a price, like the hipster "retro-gamer" crowd that suddenly decided that owning old hardware is cool, or an aging hoarder that keeps all his boxed computers on shelving units piled up the ceiling while the caps and batteries rot the mainboards, or someone like me who owned these machines as a young adult some 27 years ago and feels nostalgia for them, but, it is STILL OBSOLETE.  Are any major developers producing applications or games for Classic Amiga?  Are any major hardware companies making add-on cards for it?  No on both accounts.  Sure, there is iComp, but, that stuff is STILL not produced in large quantity, nor is there a full line, say, of processor cards, because the processors, are, guess what...obsolete.  Why?  Because the computer is OBSOLETE.  You cannot even get on a modern website on a stock Amiga, or even an 060 (I have a 2060, so I know) without major lag, or, encountering non-functional parts of a website because the Amiga and its software doesn't recognize it...because the Amiga is...OBSOLETE.  Can you play an MP3 or stream video on a classic Amiga (we're not talking about one that has been hijacked by a Vampire, and, really isn't a classic Amiga anymore)?  No again, because it's obsolete.  

$3500 laptops?   I've never spent more than $600 on one, brand new, with an i7 and the latest and greatest.  Who buys that kind of stuff?  Another insane person.
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Offline kirk_m

Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2017, 02:25:19 AM »
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I think you're posting in the wrong forum eh:roflmao:We're all certifiably crazy and yet I've never lost money on any 'obsolete computer/part' I've ever sold..only regretted selling it afterwards though:rant:


Yes, because other insane people pay the insane price being asked for the hardware.  Self perpetuating, vicious cycle.   We're talking about items being sold for the cost of a monthly mortgage payment for some.  Who does that?  I've lots of "disposable" income, and, I've always loved the C64 (had one since 1982) and Amiga (1989), and have a great sense of nostalgia for them, which prompted me to acquire a few of them over the last 5 years or so on the CHEAP, and only because I could get them cheap.  But, I am not so insane to pay a grand for an accelerator that is a quarter of a century old.
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Offline David Wright

Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2017, 02:52:58 AM »
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Yes, because other insane people pay the insane price being asked for the hardware.  Self perpetuating, vicious cycle.   We're talking about items being sold for the cost of a monthly mortgage payment for some.  Who does that?  I've lots of "disposable" income, and, I've always loved the C64 (had one since 1982) and Amiga (1989), and have a great sense of nostalgia for them, which prompted me to acquire a few of them over the last 5 years or so on the CHEAP, and only because I could get them cheap.  But, I am not so insane to pay a grand for an accelerator that is a quarter of a century old.


Nor I. I have gotten into this a little more than I thought. Still you have to keep your head on this. Paying and fixing up old computers can be fun but paying those kind of prices?

You might see my thread about fixing the A2000. I just got that with accelerator, Video toaster along with two amiga crts and an A4000 system with toaster. That is not the half of what I got. This guy said if I didn't take it, off to the recycling center.
Not a bit of nostalgia for him. Far saner than us.
 

Offline Pgovotsos

Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2017, 04:28:49 AM »
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Depends upon what your definition of crazy is.  A grand for a 25+ year old obsolete computer part is almost the definition of crazy.


Umm, not to be too much of a smart alec, but so says the man who just paid $500 for an 040? What are those old sayings about glass houses and black pots?
 

Offline kreciu

Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2017, 07:21:16 PM »
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Paying and fixing up old computers can be fun but paying those kind of prices?


You need to ask yourself: What is a price?

Then there is a other question: What are money?

And later: Average American spends on AVERAGE $1100/year on coffee. How much is cable TV? Cigarets? Beer? Parking lot? Biking vs. driving to work? I can EASLY justify spending $2000 of obsolete hardware that is cherished and desired :). In 1993 my Color Classic was about $2000. Someone got it, used it and disposed it. So, I can have it :).

I think we are way off topic ;)
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Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2017, 08:47:37 PM »
@ kirk_m

I think you're missing the point, yes of course 'we' are insane and the prices are insane BUT the facts are the facts so either you play in the insane house or b*tch about them

@ Pgovotsos

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Offline kreciu

Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2017, 10:10:52 PM »
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@ kirk_m

I think you're missing the point, yes of course 'we' are insane and the prices are insane BUT the facts are the facts so either you play in the insane house or b*tch about them

@ Pgovotsos

;-)


This is called hobby, and if someone wants to spend money on their hobby than whole argument is mute. We earn money, so we spend money.
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Offline Pgovotsos

Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2017, 10:23:16 PM »
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BUT the facts are the facts so either you play in the insane house or b*tch about them


Well that's good because I like b*tching. Oh wait, that's what my wife does about my obsession - umm I mean "hobby". Yeah, yeah, that's what it is, a hobby, a hobby. Right dear? Dear? Dear? Oh dear :)
 

Offline zipper

Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2017, 10:27:10 PM »
Recently bought several eur 2000 - 3000 stamps - it's just a hobby but a little more expensive than Amiga. My Blizz 2060 and CSPPC  did barely cost over eur 1000...Slot Car racing? Probably my motors do cost eur 10000 but give a good excuse to travel abroad...

Btw the euro sign gives a nice output: %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!8364;
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Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2017, 11:36:31 PM »
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Well that's good because I like b*tching. Oh wait, that's what my wife does about my obsession - umm I mean "hobby". Yeah, yeah, that's what it is, a hobby, a hobby. Right dear? Dear? Dear? Oh dear :)

haha been there done that..welcome to the club:drink::insane:
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Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2017, 11:37:58 PM »
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This is called hobby, and if someone wants to spend money on their hobby than whole argument is mute. We earn money, so we spend money.

preaching to the converted here my friend..for better or worse :):insane:
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Offline kreciu

Re: WTB 060 accelerator for A2000
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2017, 12:20:29 AM »
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Well that's good because I like b*tching. Oh wait, that's what my wife does about my obsession - umm I mean "hobby". Yeah, yeah, that's what it is, a hobby, a hobby. Right dear? Dear? Dear? Oh dear :)

I ALWAYS ask my wife when I buy my "hobby" parts... she is not emotionally involved, but sometimes I have to wait to get my toys :(. I can't even imagine how much money I actually SAVED on computers BECAUSE of my Amiga. I actually build 8 computers for my work (just for fun), build my own "super computer" to do genome assembly (that was 6 years ago)... so my hobby actually pays back. For sure. I'm not even going to mention that I build computers to all my family, friends, neighbors and neighbor cat. All of this because my "sandwich" Amiga on my table (I don't even know how Amiga looks like CLOSED - I see this only on pictures!)
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