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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« on: January 02, 2016, 11:48:30 PM »
Hi! I decided to change old Virge DX to Radeon 9250 and Picasso96 can't "see" my Radeon?

I hope my Radeon is "compatible" with Mediator?

Could you please tell me how to diagnose problem? My Virge works great...

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Offline Acill

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2016, 01:21:20 AM »
I just got a Radeon 9250 in the mail today and cant get it working. I use an A4000T version of the mediator. I think the card I got (Diamond S9250 PCI) is a 3.3V version and I require a 5V version. I've been looking for a guide on where to mod it with a regulator but havent had luck with this model.

If you install it and dont see it shown properly in pciinfo shell command its not compatible. You also need to have an ATX power supply connector installed on the TX to get that 3.3v
« Last Edit: January 03, 2016, 02:03:38 AM by Acill »
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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2016, 01:53:46 AM »
No PCI device...

What a cr... .  I was thinking that TX will work with ANY Radeon (3.3V or 5V). I do have ATX PSU. I really don't understand why it doesn't work.

What a disappointment.

EDIT: I changed to second PCI slot and there is ATI Radeon 9200 detected. I copied Radeon.card to Picasso96/Libs... but now system will not boot properly.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2016, 02:14:56 AM by kreciu »
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Offline Acill

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2016, 02:04:55 AM »
I feel the same way. I have purchased 4 now that havent worked. I ended up paying the Elbox tax to have one shipped in the end. I just hope it works! Do you have the ATX power connected to the mediator?
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Offline mechy

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2016, 02:59:02 AM »
Quote from: Acill;801242
I feel the same way. I have purchased 4 now that havent worked. I ended up paying the Elbox tax to have one shipped in the end. I just hope it works! Do you have the ATX power connected to the mediator?

the sapphire radeons work for 5v. barring that some mediators can be hacked for 3.3v if you have a atx psu.

like this:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-RADEON-256MB-R9250-DDR-DVI-SAPPHIRE-VGA-TVO-PCI-Graffics-Video-Card-/221984292456?hash=item33af4b7e68:g:vZsAAOSw3KFWfqZp

the order of the cards is very important
« Last Edit: January 03, 2016, 03:02:59 AM by mechy »
 

Offline Acill

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2016, 03:27:51 AM »
Quote from: mechy;801243
the sapphire radeons work for 5v. barring that some mediators can be hacked for 3.3v if you have a atx psu.

like this:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-RADEON-256MB-R9250-DDR-DVI-SAPPHIRE-VGA-TVO-PCI-Graffics-Video-Card-/221984292456?hash=item33af4b7e68:g:vZsAAOSw3KFWfqZp

the order of the cards is very important


Well if the one from Elbox doesnt work well I know what to look for now at least.
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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2016, 06:27:19 AM »
OK. It works. I contacted Elbox and they suggested to run MediatorCofig after that I was able to make it work with Picasso96Setting etc.

Thank you for help with PCIconfig.
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Offline Acill

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2016, 06:48:05 AM »
Great news! I am looking forward to getting mine in. Did you change from a Voodoo to the Radeon 9250? This is what I will be doing. Did you have to use a native Amiga screen and start all new screens on the 9250 or were you able to reuse any from the Voodoo?

I am just wondering what process I will need to do once I install the new card.
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Offline Rotzloeffel

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2016, 12:54:02 PM »
Quote from: Acill;801420
Great news! I am looking forward to getting mine in. Did you change from a Voodoo to the Radeon 9250? This is what I will be doing. Did you have to use a native Amiga screen and start all new screens on the 9250 or were you able to reuse any from the Voodoo?

I am just wondering what process I will need to do once I install the new card.

The Monitorfile for the Radeon card is exactly the same as the voodoo. You ony have to Modify its tooltypes from Voodoo to Radeon and rename the monitor-file.... as described in the Manual.....
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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2016, 02:02:36 PM »
Quote from: Acill;801420
Great news! I am looking forward to getting mine in. Did you change from a Voodoo to the Radeon 9250? This is what I will be doing. Did you have to use a native Amiga screen and start all new screens on the 9250 or were you able to reuse any from the Voodoo?

I am just wondering what process I will need to do once I install the new card.


I changed from Virge (my description in signature below is wrong (old days), and I don't know how to change it!). You need to change your Virge monitor file (Devs/Monitors/) to Radeon (also in tooltypes from Virge to Radeon). Also don't forget to copy (by hand) Radeon.card to Libs/Picasso96. It is NOT installed (?!) automatically using Mediator installer. Then I run MediatorConfig and there were few specific "options" like do you use Radeon 256 or 128, MMU etc. after that it worked find and pciinfo detected Radeon properly on 1 PCI slot.

Now, I need to set up screen modes to use something more then 800x600, but I think I need to do manually, since none created automatically seem to work properly.

I'm setting up system from scratch and Virge card did not need that much attention. It simply worked.

PS. Only problem is that when I tried to run P96Speed Radeon seems to be slower then my VirgeDX (in many "tests", but it some other much faster). I don't see any difference in Workbench speed, but I REALLY like DVI output :).

Good luck with setting up your Radeon!
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2016, 03:53:09 PM »
Quote from: kreciu;801429
Now, I need to set up screen modes to use something more then 800x600, but I think I need to do manually, since none created automatically seem to work properly.

I hate to spam the forum with one of my stupid videos again, but you know you can use Picasso96Mode to edit the automatically created modes (and possibly bring them back into spec with your card/monitor), right?

This might help:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8lLfEuVI2Y
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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2016, 05:17:04 PM »
I already figure this out (did it loooong time ago). Now I use 1600x1200 in 16bit, works great and picture using DVI is super sharp.

Thank you for link, I will watch so maybe I will learn something new.
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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Mediator TX and Radeon 9250 "not detected"
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2016, 05:10:28 AM »
Good video, I did not know there is unofficial Picasso96. I will give it a try.

BTW. I have exactly the same monitor. Were you able to connect Amiga DIRECTLY to it? It should work "on paper". I could not make it work :(
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