MUI 4.0-2015R4 for AmigaOS4/PPC and AmigaOS3/m68k released

[zylesea]

the registration page for MUI[/URL] is still active.  I tried to register it a year or so back, not because I expected anything, but just because I felt like it was the right thing to do (after using "copies" of the program all through the '90s).  Didn't get any response to my payment, but a "thank you" email at least, would've been nice.  

Stunzi is travelling the world with his mountainbike most of the time and blogging about that. He was cycling South-America from spring 2014 to early 2015 and a bit later was off again to Italy for a while. I guess he just had no time to respond.  
Stunzi's website: http://www.alpenzorro.de - quite a freak (in a definitely positive manner)

[AmiKit]

Thanks to developers for the new version. Please keep the updates coming.

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As the readme says this version is targeted at powerful systems. Either get one or use MUI3.8 instead. But stop whining please. I am happy that someone is still developing something for 68k, especially in 2016!

[OlafS3]

Thanks to developers for the new version. Please keep the updates coming.

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As the readme says this version is targeted at powerful systems. Either get one or use MUI3.8 instead. But stop whining please. I am happy that someone is still developing something for 68k, especially in 2016!

not everything is "whining". I do not wine, I just state that oviously not all 68k software is working with it, and I have not digged deeper. Also there is no 68k software needing it. Others have stated that it made their system unstable and software is not working or at least not fully. The high demands is just one aspect there.

[AmiKit]

@OlafS3

In that case you might want to use the following website instead: https://muidev.de/query

[Acill]

Thanks to developers for the new version. Please keep the updates coming.

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As the readme says this version is targeted at powerful systems. Either get one or use MUI3.8 instead. But stop whining please. I am happy that someone is still developing something for 68k, especially in 2016!

I agree its awesome and enjoy it a lot on the latest AmiKit releases. It just needs to be made very clear that this isnt for the average Amiga machine is all.

[nicholas]

I am no expert for MUI history so someone else can correct me if I am wrong. How everyone knows was and is MUI the software from Stefan Stuntz who later became part of the MorphOS team and MUI became integral part of MorphOS (the desktop is based on it). Stefan Stuntz developed 3.9 and the first version of 4, later that development was taken over by others. As far as I know is Stefan Stuntz not actively developing anymore (most of the time travelling around) but of course I do not know that just guessing. So version 4 was done by the same developer. The devs from AmigaOS camp got access to 3.9 code (lately it was indicated that they even had access to early 4 code) and were allowed to take a snapshot of that. So code of todays MorphOS MUI4 has nothing (or at least not much) to do with "MUI4" on AmigaOS because the devs there only got the snapshot and had later no access anymore and try to add MorphOS MUI4 features.

MorphOS has been based on MUI5 for quite a while now.

[kolla]

AROS uses Zune. MUI4 was solely developed for OS4 so that OS4 could have OWB, it was a matter of "browser envy". The idea to "backport" it to m68k was AmiKit's idea I think, I suppose it too was for OWB? Anyways, people can spend their time, RAM and CPU cycles however they want. Remember back in the 90ies, there was a strong "anti-MUI" sentiment back then, because of bloat and "un-amiga" way of doing things, and that was MUI3.

PS - great to hear that Stunzi is living his dream riding his bike all over the world still, more people here should follow his example

[kolla]

This MUI4 for 68k is quite silly, because most of Amiga users have 68030 Amiga.

Most Amiga users use WinUAE or FS-UAE, not old hardware :hammer:

[wawrzon]

I agree its awesome and enjoy it a lot on the latest AmiKit releases. It just needs to be made very clear that this isnt for the average Amiga machine is all.

imho it shouldnt be handled like that. amiga applications should be made with possibly good scalability in mind, since the common denominator is by today standards rather weak hardware. uae demanding eye candy should be optional. otherwise we, and beyond everyone else, the developers themselves, end up with unmaintainable versions mess, where practical end user support is simply beyond the available resources.
and im not saying this to particularly criticize the package in question. i think this paradigm should apply where possible, as alas it has been compromised too much, quite against the genuine amiga philosophy about a slim, resource sparing software.
i think genuine amiga hardware should be in this respect still a good reference for ng systems such as aros, even if the actual software, run on it, may happen to be more demanding.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

PS - great to hear that Stunzi is living his dream riding his bike all over the world still, more people here should follow his example

Must be nice, the rest of us have to work for a living. Guess he struck it rich being an Amiga software developer?  :laughing: :laughing:

[kolla]

Must be nice, the rest of us have to work for a living. Guess he struck it rich being an Amiga software developer?  :laughing: :laughing:

You don't have to be rich to do this kind of thing, it is more a matter of prioritizing and making choices, and not be afraid to pick up stray jobs along the route and do some volunteer work for food and shelter here and there.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

You don't have to be rich to do this kind of thing, it is more a matter of prioritizing and making choices, and not be afraid to pick up stray jobs along the route and do some volunteer work for food and shelter here and there.

LOL. Doesn't work that way in the US. Unless you have wealthy parents, I suppose. :p

[LoadWB]

LOL. Doesn't work that way in the US. Unless you have wealthy parents, I suppose. :p

Nah, it can work that way, here, it's just that in our practice we're fairly well separated from those who do.  Think of them as "micro-contractors."  I knew a guy a long time ago who moved from place to place and worked offering himself as a handy-man or for construction where ever he went.  I actually met him after he finished a six-month stint on a fishing boat.

Of course, there's a lot of business and union regulation in some areas which would prevent that.  Stupid things like needing a low-voltage certification to run network cable.