Author Topic: I am giving up AmigaOS4 (Read 7571 times)

DaveP · « **Reply #44 from previous page:** February 17, 2004, 10:57:42 AM »

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I have no idea who Magnetic is.

A Pegasos dealer.

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I had no intention of gagging you. I was pointing out that it does little to help these threads when you way "I know you are all wrong, but I'm not going to tell you why".

Where did I do that? I identified what I said as counter rumour and identified that I know, from at least the information I can see, that A1s have outsold Pegs so far.

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I was urging you to enlighten us rather than jeer from the sidelines, at our ignorance.

Firstly I don't recall jeering from the sidelines and I already explained why I cannot enlighten you further.

itix · « **Reply #45 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:59:51 AM »

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MagicSN - you work for Hyperion right? I KNOW you have data on how many A1s sold..

And so do I.

And so do I. There are less A1s sold than Pegasos boards. If you ask how do I know I can claim I'm under NDA.

Ok - I believe you are not lying, Dave. Probably more A1 boards were sold than Pegasos boards.

Have fun.

itix · « **Reply #46 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:03:55 AM »

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AFAIK there are noticably more AmigaOne owners than Pegasos-owners. And you have to consider those numbers
which were given recently also contain multi-buyers and
people who bought Pegasos for Linux...

"AFAIK"?? Is this the fact or just your personal opinion?

And FYI Eyetech sells A1 boards without OS4 as well.

magnetic · « **Reply #47 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:12:02 AM »

@Dave P

I love the way you make yourself seem so superior. I normally refrain from these flame wars but am tired of the damn lies. Especially from your camp. All this war could have been avoided years ago and we would all be happy together but NO, Hyperion and Amiga didnt want that they wanted the fight.

I ran into your silliness on ANN in an Articia thread. You know damn well Genesi cant reveal why they know about problems because its IP. But its known in the industry about MAI and their problems.

Amiga inc has killed the Amiga - congratulations. Its up to Genesi and Hyperion now. I have respect for Hyperion's abilities but not politics.

Dont hold your breath for OS4 - you'll soon be blue in the face. /me remembers Ben Yoris getting flamed for telling the TRUTH..

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

Its funny at this point. Cling on Dave, cling on. Soon you will see -

So the World May Know indeed..

also drop your high and mighty attitude this is an Amiga forum for crying out loud - people come here for laughs mostly - especially about V A P O U R

Go ahead release the numbers of A1 sold - why would this be sensitive information? Because it would make your camp's efforts look weak? The Truth Hurts.

itix · « **Reply #48 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:16:16 AM »

@AmiDelf:

I must say I'm really surprised... Good luck! (And welcome ;-))

bloodline · « **Reply #49 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:22:08 AM »

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DaveP wrote:
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I have no idea who Magnetic is.

A Pegasos dealer.

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I had no intention of gagging you. I was pointing out that it does little to help these threads when you way "I know you are all wrong, but I'm not going to tell you why".

Where did I do that? I identified what I said as counter rumour and identified that I know, from at least the information I can see, that A1s have outsold Pegs so far.

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I was urging you to enlighten us rather than jeer from the sidelines, at our ignorance.

Firstly I don't recall jeering from the sidelines and I already explained why I cannot enlighten you further.

I Still don't care who Magnetic is. I am happy for you to counter his rumour, please do, that would be a great way to shut these threads up. But don't do it with informatino you cannot share!

I'm not saying you had any intention of jeering, but think how it looks when you state that you are in a position, privy to insider information that you are happy to announce you have access too... but cannot share?

mikeymike · « **Reply #50 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:23:20 AM »

This is such a futile thread. I was going to start moderating posts, but there's a good selection on both sides of the argument that are also borderline trolls.

Guys, I'll lock the thread if you can't play nice. Drop the blind advocacy of your current favourite Amiga/compatible manufacturer because it's pointless and doesn't help to construct a sane argument.

Seriously, one more stupid post and it'll be locked.

Arguments like this have happened so many times before and they're pointless.

MagicSN · « **Reply #51 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:24:52 AM »

Hi!

>Care to elaborate? Really... If there's a flaw with the >idea, how about some constructive criticism?

Well, it is just plain wrong. And I am tired of beating down
ridiculous rumours made up by people

So I cut my answer short.

>From a quick glance over their team and size, it doesn't >look like they can support multiple projects of this size. >That means AmigaOS4 is basically sitting at some form of >an impasse, while the Linux and AOS4 versions of Gorky 17 >are developed, correct?

Sigh. We had that one often enough, didn't we ? The people from the Gorky team never worked on any OS 4
components. They are game developers from the Linux platform.

Steffen Haeuser

DaveP · « **Reply #52 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:25:56 AM »

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magnetic wrote:

Edit - forget it, this is needlessly heated and totally pointless. You want to slag me off magnetic, go ahead.

magnetic · « **Reply #53 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:30:34 AM »

mikeymike
You are right it is futile. I'm sorry to have rocked the boat. The thing is i'm not being a fanboy here just stating the TRUTH. Something lacking in this market for many years..

magnetic

Paul_Gadd · « **Reply #54 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:34:42 AM »

One word "hypocrite". bashing Amiga emulators and other Amiga like products at every available opportunity but to now praise something you slagged off is really pathetic.

Warface · « **Reply #55 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:37:32 AM »

@DaveP:

If there are more AmigaONE sales than Pegasos ones, what's the point of Eyetech not publishing their numbers, and giving out announcements with such wording, that no comparison can be made? (namely the "ATX form factor" issue)

Sorry, It's just too hard to believe you. But if there are more AmigaONE users than Pegasos users, it's good to us, as there are more than twice new machines around than the known Pegasos numbers.

DaveP · « **Reply #56 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:39:36 AM »

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Warface wrote:
If there are more AmigaONE sales than Pegasos ones, what's the point of Eyetech not publishing their numbers, and giving out announcements with such wording, that no comparison can be made? (namely the "ATX form factor" issue)

Ask them.

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Sorry, It's just too hard to believe you.

I take no offence whatsoever. As I said, if and when Eyetech publish any figures it will either back up my headcount or make me look an idiot. I don't mind at all.

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But if there are more AmigaONE users than Pegasos users, it's good to us, as there are more than twice new machines around than the known Pegasos numbers.

Thats a VERY healthy way to look at it.

hnl_dk · « **Reply #57 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:41:30 AM »

EDIT: UPS ;-)

mikeymike · « **Reply #58 on:** February 17, 2004, 12:04:28 PM »

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You are right it is futile. I'm sorry to have rocked the boat. The thing is i'm not being a fanboy here just stating the TRUTH. Something lacking in this market for many years..

The truth as you see it possibly/believe it to be. Most of this thread is based on speculation and statements that can't be backed up with proof, considered to be fact regardless which just ends up looking like a total troll.

I don't think any of the manufacturers in question has a squeaky-clean image anymore. They should all be trying to earn the community's trust back again, instead of constantly bitching with/about each other. It's not professional behaviour.