Any chance of HP LaserJet and overall improved printer support?

[vox]

If the printer is indeed PostScript capable, then you're good to go because AmigaOS has good support for PostScript.  As others have said, it may not be PS compatible however.  I've just generated a couple of PS test pages in PageStream.  To test your printer, just copy the PS file to the printer, e.g. copy PS_test_colour.ps >PAR:

If it's PS capable, then you'll get a print of the test page.  If not, you'll get nothing, or garbage.


While I usually avoid these borderline political type discussions....

As others have said, it may be unreasonable for Hyperion and the MOS folks to spend the thousands of man-hours necessary writing dozens of custom print drivers to support various printers that use their own proprietary language when they could instead continue to focus on core OS functionality.  Obviously they have a finite resource in terms of software developers and of course they are wanting to use this wisely.  Printing via the PostScript standard is supported fine at present, hence it makes sense to use a PostScript compatible printer.

If anything, you could argue that printer manufacturers are at fault for not using the standard printer control languages which readily exist.  Or you could blame consumers for encouraging manufacturers to do such things by purchasing such non-conforming products.  PostScript was developed in the late 1970s to form a common language to talk to any printer, which is a brilliant idea and in theory eliminates the need for many combersome proprietary drivers, which seems to be the case with most low-end consumer grade printers.  You could hardly use the excuse that PostScript is too new on the block or not commonly known.  It's hardly the fault of Hyperion and MOS that printer manufactures decide to deviate from such standards.  The entire point of such standards is so that different bits of hardware can correctly communicate.  PostScript does exactly that as far as printers are concerned.

Blame Canada.

Huh, OS with no real printing support in modern terms of it, is faulty OS.

I don`t have a PS, but since I need that kind of software, next $100 there you go ...

Expectation that manufacturer will do the drivers for such minor OS with no agreement, partenrship ...

Man that doesnt happen even for Linux. Nor Varisys and Acube do all their drivers for OS4.
Or ATI (AMD) does Radeon drivers for both.

[danbeaver]

Good luck!

[mechy]

There is modern printer support on the amiga as many have stated, you seem to just ignore the solutions given.
Whining about the hardware and os you bought doesn't do much good.
printing via network works fine, i have been doing it for many years on the amiga under os3.9 as well as 4.x. Before that i used a old hp5l for many years i picked up used for $39.
color lasers are dirt cheap now,and there are many new in the box ebay deals to be had even.
You can't cry that you bought a unsupported cut down windows printer. The logical thing to do would of been check what drivers were available before you bought that printer.
Amiga has always been a niche market compared to linux and windows and always will be.
printer models change as much as you change underwear(at i hope you do)and it is unrealistic to expect all of them to be supported.
You could always learn to write your own printer driver.

[mechy]

one quick list of some printers that do and do not support pcl5/postscript:

http://www.unform.com/sdsi.cgi?filter=&submit=Search&p=unform7&sp=support%2Fptr&f=printers&a=list&sf=ptr

[vox]

There is modern printer support on the amiga as many have stated, you seem to just ignore the solutions given.
Whining about the hardware and os you bought doesn't do much good.
printing via network works fine, i have been doing it for many years on the amiga under os3.9 as well as 4.x. Before that i used a old hp5l for many years i picked up used for $39.
color lasers are dirt cheap now,and there are many new in the box ebay deals to be had even.
You can't cry that you bought a unsupported cut down windows printer. The logical thing to do would of been check what drivers were available before you bought that printer.
Amiga has always been a niche market compared to linux and windows and always will be.
printer models change as much as you change underwear(at i hope you do)and it is unrealistic to expect all of them to be supported.
You could always learn to write your own printer driver.

Blah blah blah. I have bought an economic printer as I always do, since I dont have higher printing needs. Colour LaserJets still have high price of printer per page, while my one perfectly suits my needs and budget.

It would be best to support most wider choices, and yes 1010/1020 is widely sold printer.

Surely, so many Amiga users have so far wrote their own drivers, I would be just another among bunch. As well as OS and HP documentation is easily and widely avail.

[danbeaver]

The is "economic" and there is "cheap;" many folks confuse the two.

[vox]

The is "economic" and there is "cheap;" many folks confuse the two.

1020 beats both, even more expensive b/w models have even lower per page price, but they are for real offices. At my home user level, that is both.

[danbeaver]

So how's that workin' for ya in AOS, AROS & MOS?

[desiv]

If you have a printer that only has Windows drivers and you have a windows machine handy, just use the windows machine as a postscript gateway.

Something like this: http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~henrik/GSPSprinter/GSPSprinter.html
Then you just print from the Amiga to the windows machine using the Amiga postscript driver via the network.

I've done this using Linux instead of Windows and it works great..
(The laser printer I got doesn't support Postscript, but does have Linux drivers..  Considering getting a Raspberry Pi instead of using my Linux box, just so I don't have to power it up when I need to print, but I don't print that often..  Would be a good excuse to get a Pi tho.. ;-)

desiv

[chris]

So next to my SAM460ex sometimes revisited by DJ Nicks X1000 sits a HP LaserJet 1010 that I can`t use, at least not via direct USB connection.

The main problem with the 1010 is the USB interface is Dot4.

Yes, it needs a host-based driver, but actually it's a subset of PCL5 so drivers-wise the LJ4 driver might work.

If you'd spent a bit more on the 1015, that's a proper PCL5 printer and if you have a parallel port it works direct from the Amiga.

[B00tDisk]

Blah blah blah.

This sums up your attitude towards every attempt to educate or inform you about anything computer related on what, five or six forums? in the last half-decade.

[Iggy]

If you have a printer that only has Windows drivers and you have a windows machine handy, just use the windows machine as a postscript gateway.

Something like this: http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~henrik/GSPSprinter/GSPSprinter.html
Then you just print from the Amiga to the windows machine using the Amiga postscript driver via the network.

I've done this using Linux instead of Windows and it works great..
(The laser printer I got doesn't support Postscript, but does have Linux drivers..  Considering getting a Raspberry Pi instead of using my Linux box, just so I don't have to power it up when I need to print, but I don't print that often..  Would be a good excuse to get a Pi tho.. ;-)

desiv

THAT is a great response.
Although I just stopped leaving an XP machine running 24/7.
I might have to start doing that again.

[chris]

THAT is a great response.
Although I just stopped leaving an XP machine running 24/7.
I might have to start doing that again.

It works great with the Pi and CUPS - no need to have a noisy power-hungry PC running 24/7.