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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #119 from previous page: January 06, 2014, 05:36:49 PM »
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Sorry to redirect the subject of the thread a little bit, but what ever happened to the Natami project?

The developer of the SuperAGA chipset core was motivated primarily by learning to become a better developer.  Once he achieved that goal, he decided that he didn't want to participate further in the project so he rage quit and since the entire SuperAGA core was his only, anything he had done is no longer legally accessible to the rest of the team.

The other core of the NatAmi had its name changed.  The N68070 is now known as the Apollo core.  It is still being developed by Jens, Gunnar and several of the other team members.  The last I heard from them, they had developed an SIMD unit for it geared toward planar graphics and was in the process of making a simple planar graphics core to go with it with some added features.

There is also another hobby project on AmigaCoding.de that is being developed by Marcel Verdaasdonk (aka Veda) tentatively referred to as XCS.  It is more elaborate than the simple planar-only graphics core developed by the Apollo team.  It incorporates indexed chunky mode and byte-planar modes in both the deeper pipelined Blitter and display functions as well as caching and an eight-way multithreaded 32-bit Copper.  It is intended to be used with the Apollo CPU core and although Marcel was not an official part of the NatAmi team, he posted to the NatAmi forum regularly.

As a former member of the NatAmi team myself, I'm putting my lot in with Marcel as a documentation editor since American English is my native language and not his.  If all goes well, I'll come up with some AROS drivers to support his chipset core.  (In particular, I'm looking forward to being able to queue blit-nodes via one of the Coppers instead of tripping interrupts on the CPU every time the Blitter finishes its work.)
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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #120 on: January 06, 2014, 05:41:57 PM »
@ Iggy & SamuraiCrow:

Thanks for the update. Good to know.
It's a shame that things didn't work out.
 

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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #121 on: January 06, 2014, 08:22:43 PM »
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@ Iggy & SamuraiCrow:

Thanks for the update. Good to know.
It's a shame that things didn't work out.

Yes, it is a shame.
The core chipset was very promising.
As none of the splinter groups has the advantage of using it, everything is pretty much back to square one.
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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #122 on: January 06, 2014, 09:37:38 PM »
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PSU replacement for A500/600/1200. Standard connector but at least 5 amps or more (no fans).


This !
We need quality PSUs. And that would greatly improve the reliability and longevity of the aging hardware.
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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #123 on: January 06, 2014, 09:53:10 PM »
This is something I'd buy too. A good quality, silent(ish) PSU to replace the old ones which are rather noisy by today's standards. Not a problem in my (very quiet) towered A4000 with an ATX PSU, but my desktop is a lot noisier.
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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #124 on: January 07, 2014, 06:40:42 AM »
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PSU replacement for A500/600/1200. Standard connector but at least 5 amps or more (no fans).


A1200 desktop chassis replacement:
  • Using external PC-keyboard via Lyra 2-adapter (avoiding the problem with aging keyboards and broken flat cables)
  • Slot for slim fit DVD
  • Slot for VGA/DVI-connector (Indivision AGA)
  • Slot for two USB ports
  • Slot for optional case fan (for those with 040/060)
  • Slots for all existing A1200 ports


With no internal keyboard it should take slightly less space than the standard chassis. Something like http://oldcomputers.net/pics/c128d.jpg or A1000.


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What about a run of Amiga desktop cases? A500/A600/A1200 and perhaps C64 as well.


I agree 100%

This would make extending the wedge Amigas a lot easier. And I don't like the tower solutions; I had one in the late '90s / early 2000s and they are overkill.
The price of slim laptop/notebook drives (HDD and optical) is much more affordable these days.
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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #125 on: January 07, 2014, 06:44:07 AM »
It's kind of ironic; Successive companies have tried to build us "an automobile", when all we really wanted, as it turns out, is "a faster horse".

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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #126 on: January 07, 2014, 06:52:06 AM »
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I agree 100%

This would make extending the wedge Amigas a lot easier. And I don't like the tower solutions; I had one in the late '90s / early 2000s and they are overkill.
The price of slim laptop/notebook drives (HDD and optical) is much more affordable these days.

I am happy as long as we can get backplates for various Amiga models so simplify desktop/tower case builds, ive sent a inquiry to a company that laser cuts metal to see how much it would cost.

A desktop case for let's say the A1200 would be a bit awkward if it also is built to fit a mediator since you don't want the desktop to be as thick as a tower, some trickery with flexible risers would be needed, but a desktop without mediator would be possible to make quite slim and that I would want since I have no Mediator :)

On the PSU note I don't mind since it's easy to use a mATX/flex PSU for your Amiga but sure some people might like it who do not want to build/modify their own :)
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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #127 on: January 07, 2014, 06:59:10 AM »
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I am happy as long as we can get backplates for various Amiga models so simplify desktop/tower case builds, ive sent a inquiry to a company that laser cuts metal to see how much it would cost.

A desktop case for let's say the A1200 would be a bit awkward if it also is built to fit a mediator since you don't want the desktop to be as thick as a tower, some trickery with flexible risers would be needed, but a desktop without mediator would be possible to make quite slim and that I would want since I have no Mediator :)

On the PSU note I don't mind since it's easy to use a mATX/flex PSU for your Amiga but sure some people might like it who do not want to build their own :)


Dunno why you'd want to move a 1200 out of its original case. Considering the size of electronics these days. You could fit a tablet in the expansion port. Viva la originale!
 

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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #128 on: January 07, 2014, 07:47:52 AM »
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PSU replacement for A500/600/1200. Standard connector but at least 5 amps or more (no fans).


A1200 desktop chassis replacement:
  • Using external PC-keyboard via Lyra 2-adapter (avoiding the problem with aging keyboards and broken flat cables)
  • Slot for slim fit DVD
  • Slot for VGA/DVI-connector (Indivision AGA)
  • Slot for two USB ports
  • Slot for optional case fan (for those with 040/060)
  • Slots for all existing A1200 ports


With no internal keyboard it should take slightly less space than the standard chassis. Something like http://oldcomputers.net/pics/c128d.jpg or A1000.


This would be a fun idea but custom cases generally cost more ! ! ! !   Keep it reasonable and i'm in . . . :-)
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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #129 on: January 07, 2014, 08:39:38 AM »
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Dunno why you'd want to move a 1200 out of its original case. Considering the size of electronics these days. You could fit a tablet in the expansion port. Viva la originale!

I don't want to put my 1200 out of it's original case, but when/if I get hold of a 060 some wont fit in the wedge and i might get forced to move it to a tower/desktop.

But when that time comes, I will buy another A1200 in a yellowed case and keep my current one in the wedge :)
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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #131 on: March 01, 2014, 04:00:21 PM »
What I need is the following hardware:

1) USB card for A4000D/T
2) Ethernet card for A4000D/T
3) RTG card card for A4000D/T
4) New accelerators and PPC cards for A4000D/T
5) New A4000D/T computers for sales
 

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Re: Classic Amiga Hardware Projects for 2014
« Reply #132 on: March 02, 2014, 01:48:55 AM »
I'd like to see a specification created and finalized for a "Zorro IV" fibre-channel bus for the older machines.  Naturally the spec should be given away gratis.

"Zorro IV" cards would reside in existing Zorro II/III sockets and draw power from the old socket, however, communication with the processor would be through a fibre port on the "Zorro IV" card to a corresponding fibre port on the processor expansion card.  The fibre-channel bus would run at a clock independent of the Amiga 2/3/4000 Zorro bus speed ...potentially much faster.

Third-party vendors could adapt existing peripheral chips and components to Zorro-sized PCB's and actually run the components at their designed clock speeds, with a fast busmaster chip on the processor expansion card receiving and buffering their communication.