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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2013, 04:23:20 AM »
Jeri in one of her tweets admits she is sitting on a stock of the SOC's used for the dtv.

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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2013, 05:03:42 AM »
Out of curiosity how much money did they actually raise? And do you guys think a C64 project would be able to get better funding than an Amiga based project?
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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2013, 05:09:13 AM »
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Out of curiosity how much money did they actually raise? And do you guys think a C64 project would be able to get better funding than an Amiga based project?


I think it only raised $150.
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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2013, 05:13:55 AM »
Two backers of $75 so yeah $150. Thing is he would have had to pay the listing fee regardless. And I beleive on a fixed sum capaign it's 9% of the total earned before either failure to raise the amount or cancelation. Which comes to $13.50 if my maths is right. So he should think himself lucky because that could have been a lot worse.
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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2013, 06:50:15 AM »
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First I hear about this - and due to a one off tweet by Jeri Ellsworth its now cancelled. Way to go Jeri!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/10/ellsworth_tweet_prompts_bread_bin_cancellation/

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I think a bit of a re-think on that opinion wouldn't go astray.
 

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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2013, 07:43:30 AM »
I actually owned a C-one, DTV and now a Chameleon.  The Jeri C-one core was never complete enough to run much software.  The DTV core, although very nice was never a good replacement for a real 64.  It really was its own platform with some c64 compatibility. Until the FPGA64 core came out by Peter Wendrich that ran on the C-one there was almost NOTHING to run on the c-one that ran c64 software decently.  The FPGA64 core later was turned into the Turbo Chameleon cartridge which runs with a C64 and in a standalone mode.  At this point, it is the closest we have to a C64 clone that really is getting all the little things right that make it hard to get high compatibility!  Each release is getting better and better and it has taken YEARS to get that far.
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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2013, 07:49:49 AM »
She comes across as insensitive and disrespectful, regardless of whether this guy was out of his league or not. I certainly lost any respect I had for her.
 

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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2013, 08:52:36 AM »
Didn´t Jerry also screw Jens in the C-One project somehow - I think I have read something like that times ago?
 

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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2013, 09:19:55 AM »
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You have it backwards from what i heard.
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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2013, 01:06:52 PM »
Both Dave Jones and Jeri Ellsworth are highly skilled and experienced when it comes to development and production of new harware.

They, and all the others mocking the project had good reason to laugh.  It was hopeless from birth.

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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2013, 01:30:01 PM »
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Didn´t Jerry also screw Jens in the C-One project somehow - I think I have read something like that times ago?


I remember Jens having some pretty unkind words to say in public about Jeri Ellsworth, anyone remember the source of that?


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borut

You have it backwards from what i heard.


From memory those accusations come from Jens himself.
 

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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2013, 01:46:12 PM »
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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2013, 04:51:40 PM »
So did anyone seriously think this project would really be happening? For $150000? Automatic detection of PAL/NTSC software? Close to 100% compatibility by hiring "a firm to do the electronics"? Who would design the specs?

It truly is a scam in that he pulled all the numbers out of his ass, whether he did it knowingly or out of ignorance. To say that he could produce such a computer and sell it for $75 is an outright lie, and he deserves no respect.
 

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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2013, 05:13:35 PM »
http://www.gulli.com/news/9121-retrocomputing-trouble-um-den-c-one-und-c64-dtv-2006-08-17

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Didn´t Jerry also screw Jens in the C-One project somehow - I think I have read something like that times ago?
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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2013, 06:08:13 PM »
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So did anyone seriously think this project would really be happening? For $150000? Automatic detection of PAL/NTSC software? Close to 100% compatibility by hiring "a firm to do the electronics"? Who would design the specs?

It truly is a scam in that he pulled all the numbers out of his ass, whether he did it knowingly or out of ignorance. To say that he could produce such a computer and sell it for $75 is an outright lie, and he deserves no respect.

The only thing he is guilty of is stupidity and naivety. Pretty sure people can make mistakes especially where enthusiasm and blind devotion are involved. If it was a scam he would have at least put a bit more effort into the pitch.
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Re: How was this allowed to happen?
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 11, 2013, 10:13:08 PM »
Quote from: ZeBeeDee;734554
http://www.gulli.com/news/9121-retrocomputing-trouble-um-den-c-one-und-c64-dtv-2006-08-17


THX - nice to know that I remember some things right. I thought he wrote it also in an thread on a1k.org