Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Forums
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Down

Author Topic: Upgrading a 4000  (Read 6868 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Darrin

  • Lifetime Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2002
  • Posts: 4430
    • Show only replies by Darrin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2012, 01:17:20 AM »
Quote from: Tupin;700604
Update: Trying to get back into Amiga, got the HDDs out of my 4000. The master drive was about 145 MB, slave about 500 MB.

How exactly do I go about installing a new OS through WinUAE, again? My modern PC won't recognize the drives.


Boot into Windows.
MAKE SURE YOU RUN WINUAE AS AN ADMINISTRATOR (sorry for the caps, but this is essential or you can't mount the card as an Amiga drive - the option will be grayed out).
Put your CF card in your PC's removable reader
In your UAE prefs, mount the CF card as an Amiga drive and boot into your regular HDF file or Workbench folder.
Format/Partition the CF card using Toolbox as if it was a real hard drive* (make sure you make it bootable)
Copy your files onto the CF card
Put CF card in real Amiga and boot.

*I've had trouble in the past formatting some CF Cards in WinUAE where the Amiga will recognise them.  I discovered that using the updated Toolbox in Amiga Forever's "AMigaSYS" Workbench option works every time.
Logged
A2000, A3000, 2 x A1200T, A1200, A4000Tower & Mediator, CD32, VIC-20, C64, C128, C128D, PET 8032, Minimig & ARM, C-One, FPGA Arcade... and AmigaOne X1000.
 

Offline TupinTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 68
    • Show only replies by Tupin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 01:26:56 AM »
I want to use the original drives that I got with the machine. My computer does not even recognize the drive, I'm using a USB to IDE adapter as my PC uses SATA.
Logged
 

Offline Darrin

  • Lifetime Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2002
  • Posts: 4430
    • Show only replies by Darrin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2012, 02:01:20 AM »
Quote from: Tupin;700608
I want to use the original drives that I got with the machine. My computer does not even recognize the drive, I'm using a USB to IDE adapter as my PC uses SATA.


Principle will be the same as the CF Card.  Boot Windows.  Plug in USB adapter.  Run UAE as an Admin.  Mount drive as an Amiga drive, boot into Workbench.

I have a removable drive bay in my PC which I use for prepping large IDE drives via WinUAE.
Logged
A2000, A3000, 2 x A1200T, A1200, A4000Tower & Mediator, CD32, VIC-20, C64, C128, C128D, PET 8032, Minimig & ARM, C-One, FPGA Arcade... and AmigaOne X1000.
 

Offline TupinTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 68
    • Show only replies by Tupin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2012, 04:04:53 AM »
A bit rusty on my Amiga jargon, excuse me. What do I need if I have a blank, formatted drive to install 3.9 on it? Kickstart ROMs and an OS?

I can't even get the Amiga drive to show up using this adapter. In fact, most drives don't work. Guess I need a new one.
Logged
 

Offline TupinTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 68
    • Show only replies by Tupin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2012, 01:56:02 AM »
Actually, a CF card is easier, and I already have stuff I need. So, what else do I need again? I have stuff to install OS 3.9., not sure what else I need.
Logged
 

Offline Darrin

  • Lifetime Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2002
  • Posts: 4430
    • Show only replies by Darrin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2012, 03:44:28 AM »
Quote from: Tupin;700735
Actually, a CF card is easier, and I already have stuff I need. So, what else do I need again? I have stuff to install OS 3.9., not sure what else I need.


Does your real Amiga have a CD/DVD ROM drive?

You will need Kickstart 3.1 on your Amiga to install/run OS3.9
Logged
A2000, A3000, 2 x A1200T, A1200, A4000Tower & Mediator, CD32, VIC-20, C64, C128, C128D, PET 8032, Minimig & ARM, C-One, FPGA Arcade... and AmigaOne X1000.
 

Offline TupinTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 68
    • Show only replies by Tupin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2012, 12:43:20 AM »
Quote from: Darrin;700749
Does your real Amiga have a CD/DVD ROM drive?

You will need Kickstart 3.1 on your Amiga to install/run OS3.9

No, it doesn't. I think I have Kickstart 3.1 on the 4000, though.
Logged
 

Offline Darrin

  • Lifetime Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2002
  • Posts: 4430
    • Show only replies by Darrin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2012, 02:09:52 AM »
Quote from: Tupin;700955
No, it doesn't. I think I have Kickstart 3.1 on the 4000, though.


OK, now you lost me.  You don't have Kickstart 3.1, but you think you have Kickstart 3.1 on your A4000???  I thought you wanted OS3.9 on the A4000?
Logged
A2000, A3000, 2 x A1200T, A1200, A4000Tower & Mediator, CD32, VIC-20, C64, C128, C128D, PET 8032, Minimig & ARM, C-One, FPGA Arcade... and AmigaOne X1000.
 

Offline TupinTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 68
    • Show only replies by Tupin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2012, 02:39:31 AM »
Yeah, just forget about that whole line of thought. I was confused myself, but now I think I understand most of this after researching it.

Mounted the CF card under "Add a Directory", used my 3.1 disks that I found after posting that, installed 3.1 to the drive. Plugged it in my 4000, does nothing but having a white screen? Is it because of the jumper setting is on "Slave?"
Logged
 

Offline Darrin

  • Lifetime Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2002
  • Posts: 4430
    • Show only replies by Darrin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2012, 06:20:50 AM »
If you used Add A Directory to mount your CF card in UAE then it is not prepped for use on an Amiga.  You have to mount it as an Amiga drive and use either ADF files of your 3.1 OS to prep and install it or boot into a HDF file.

If you have real OS3.1 floppies then just prep the card on your actual A4000.  Do you have the OS3.1 "Install" disk?

Look at this link:
http://winuaehelp.back2roots.org/gui/hard-drives.htm

In the first picture you will see THREE options, ADD DIRECTORY OR ARCHIVE, ADD HARDFILE and ADD HARD DRIVE.

ADD HARD DRIVE is gray because in this case UAE has not been run as an administrator.  Run UAE as an admin and then use this option to mount your CF card as a hard drive.  Then use ADF files of OS3.1 (available on the internet with a little bit of searching) to prep and install it.  For ease of use, use a 4GB CF card and set it up with 2 x 2GB partitions called SYSTEM and WORK.

Make sure you check the READ/WRITE box.
Logged
A2000, A3000, 2 x A1200T, A1200, A4000Tower & Mediator, CD32, VIC-20, C64, C128, C128D, PET 8032, Minimig & ARM, C-One, FPGA Arcade... and AmigaOne X1000.
 

Offline TupinTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 68
    • Show only replies by Tupin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2012, 07:02:55 AM »
Quote from: Darrin;700969
If you used Add A Directory to mount your CF card in UAE then it is not prepped for use on an Amiga.  You have to mount it as an Amiga drive and use either ADF files of your 3.1 OS to prep and install it or boot into a HDF file.

If you have real OS3.1 floppies then just prep the card on your actual A4000.  Do you have the OS3.1 "Install" disk?

Look at this link:
http://winuaehelp.back2roots.org/gui/hard-drives.htm

In the first picture you will see THREE options, ADD DIRECTORY OR ARCHIVE, ADD HARDFILE and ADD HARD DRIVE.

ADD HARD DRIVE is gray because in this case UAE has not been run as an administrator.  Run UAE as an admin and then use this option to mount your CF card as a hard drive.  Then use ADF files of OS3.1 (available on the internet with a little bit of searching) to prep and install it.  For ease of use, use a 4GB CF card and set it up with 2 x 2GB partitions called SYSTEM and WORK.

Make sure you check the READ/WRITE box.

Strange, I followed your instructions directly and still could not select the drive. I made sure to run as Administrator.
Logged
 

Offline gertsy

  • Lifetime Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2006
  • Posts: 2318
  • Country: au
  • Thanked: 1 times
    • Show only replies by gertsy
    • http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~gbakker64/
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2012, 11:18:52 AM »
And yes, if you like Amiga Games, you should get WHDLoad and purchase a license key.
Logged
 

Offline TupinTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 68
    • Show only replies by Tupin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2012, 12:28:00 AM »
Okay, is there something I have to edit with WinUAE? I've seen some people say that you have to to use the -disableharddrivesafetycheck command, but I'm not sure how to do that.

I'll cross the bridge on how to get WHDLoad working when I come to it.
Logged
 

Offline zipper

Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2012, 11:02:36 AM »
Not anymore with the latest versions.
Logged
 

Offline TupinTopic starter

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 68
    • Show only replies by Tupin
Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #28 from previous page: July 24, 2012, 10:04:23 PM »
I just tried it with a bunch of memory cards of various types, just to see if the CF card didn't work. Toolbox recognizes none of them. "Add Removable Drives" doesn't do anything to help me make a bootable image.
Logged
 
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Up
« previous next »