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Serial problems with Amiga 500
« on: March 09, 2012, 04:03:16 PM »
Hi guyz!
I just got nullmodem serial cable for my Amiga. Some guys said me, that model I bought will work. (It's this one: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/3549/ntr ) But I instantly got an problem, when I tried to transfer anything to my Amiga. I have tried Amiga Explorer and ADF Sender Terminal. I have set the serial settings correctly and so, but I cannot get the "**BREAK" message, when you need to press CTRL+C. I have tried everything...
I am now using my old Win98 pc to transfer files, because it has an serial port (actually 2 of them).
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 04:14:09 PM »
Are you sure the serial port itself is working? It might be worth checking the -12V line from the power supply - if that's not working properly it will affect serial (and possibly sound too)...

A possibly silly question: You've tried both serial ports on the PC, yeah?
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 04:22:20 PM »
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Hi guyz!
I just got nullmodem serial cable for my Amiga. Some guys said me, that model I bought will work. (It's this one: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/3549/ntr ) But I instantly got an problem, when I tried to transfer anything to my Amiga. I have tried Amiga Explorer and ADF Sender Terminal. I have set the serial settings correctly and so, but I cannot get the "**BREAK" message, when you need to press CTRL+C. I have tried everything...
I am now using my old Win98 pc to transfer files, because it has an serial port (actually 2 of them).
Thanks

-Eemil


Let's step back a minute, and make sure the ports are working, properly selected, etc on both the amiga and the PC.

If you can, run some terminals software on both the amiga and the pc, and make sure that you can type some characters back and forth.

I think I use that EXACT SAME dual-headed cable to move stuff between my amiga and pc, so the cable is likely right.

I used amiga explorer awhile ago, but never used the sender terminal in question.  I would test the fundamentals first and make sure they work.  This will prove out the cable, the ports on both machines, and the right COM port is selected.

Keep us posted.
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 04:36:43 PM »
Thanks for fast answers!
I just tested Serial port 2, and guess what, it didn't work at all! It even didn't want to start transfer the data. And it's not surprise if serial ports are broken because I got that computer totally free :D

So the next thing is to get a new computer or to get USB to serial converter to my laptop?

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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 04:59:01 PM »
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Thanks for fast answers!
I just tested Serial port 2, and guess what, it didn't work at all! It even didn't want to start transfer the data. And it's not surprise if serial ports are broken because I got that computer totally free :D

So the next thing is to get a new computer or to get USB to serial converter to my laptop?

-Eemil


I'm not surprised.

Most new computers do *not* come with serial ports.

I would suggest getting a USB to serial converter.  I've been extremely happy with the converters that are based on FTDI's chips -- their drivers are certified, and work well.

Based on the link you posted, which I was think was Finnish, I'm sure you have some different local suppliers than in the US.  I'm sure we could find a local source for one if you have trouble.

Good luck.
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 05:23:58 PM »
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I'm not surprised.

Most new computers do *not* come with serial ports.

I would suggest getting a USB to serial converter.  I've been extremely happy with the converters that are based on FTDI's chips -- their drivers are certified, and work well.

Based on the link you posted, which I was think was Finnish, I'm sure you have some different local suppliers than in the US.  I'm sure we could find a local source for one if you have trouble.

Good luck.

I don't mean brand new computer. I mean not so old Windows XP computer that has serial port. I had pentium 3 xp computer that had serial, but I was just too stupid and I threw it out. :( My Win98 computer doesn't even have USB ports :hammer:

I think I'll get an old XP computer more cheaply than USB to Serial converter. :D
But thanks for answer.

BTW: Theres a Belkin's converter (in same site, where I bought cable): http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/14777/qjgc but it's quite expensive, when my Amiga 500 pack with external FDD, PSU, mouse and 1MB ram cost only 22€.

-Eemil
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 06:41:30 PM »
USB came to XP via SP1 AFAIR.
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 06:51:33 PM »
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USB came to XP via SP1 AFAIR.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding you here.

Windows 95 OSR2 had support for USB. All subsequent versions supported it directly?
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2012, 07:03:13 PM »
Indeed - right.
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 10:07:04 PM »
It's also worth noting that I couldn't get sucessful file transfers via serial on an OCS Amiga when running workbench in more than 4 colors. Once running in 4 colors I've found amiga explorer pretty reliable.
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 10:38:49 PM »
Got PC TO AMIGA PARALLEL LINK cable from amigakit and use pc2 amiga. Then have mapped the amiga dir off my win7 machine thur my win98 machine which i can directly access from my amiga. Alot faster than serial and a very cheap solution.

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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2012, 07:17:40 PM »
Ok, I got a "new" Windows 98 computer for free. In this one I get **BREAK message in Amiga and so... But how to transfer something to DF1? I don't want to swap disks all the time, and I have external floppy. Can't transdisk use that?
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2012, 10:07:13 PM »
What about booting from DF1: - that should let you use DF0: for whatever you want, including writing transferred files, as the system will be using DF1:
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Re: Serial problems with Amiga 500
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2012, 07:18:30 AM »
Hi!
One more question, ok?
So, how to transfer that Transwarp to floppy, that I don't need to start Workbench every time, when I want to transfer ADF?
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