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Offline stefcep2

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Re: Interesting 1200
« Reply #14 from previous page: September 25, 2011, 08:44:48 AM »
MIPS=meaningless indicator of performance.

Other than MIPS what else makes people think the 68060 @50 mhz is only 1.3 times faster than a 68040@40 mhz?
 

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Re: Interesting 1200
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2011, 04:36:31 PM »
Quote from: stefcep2;661173
MIPS=meaningless indicator of performance.

Other than MIPS what else makes people think the 68060 @50 mhz is only 1.3 times faster than a 68040@40 mhz?


mips is something invented to calculate integer performance
you can use it to get an idea  how fast the cpu will complete certain task
however there are buggy programs like sysspeed that report wrong and inaccurate results
but the 060/50mhz will complete a task 1.3x faster than a 040/40mhz and 2x faster than a 040/25
That's because the 040 and the 060 have identical cores....in fact the 040 overclocked to 50mhz performs identical as the 060/50

and for your question ...you can use real life benchmarks to measure cpu performance
something like a picture converter or a sound converter
also someone who had both cpus...the 040/40 and the 060/50 should affirm that the 060 is not much faster...almost impossible to notice a difference on workbench
you note it on benchmarks or playing games like doom or quake where the 060 will work fast
 

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Re: Interesting 1200
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2011, 05:05:26 PM »
Counting from Freescale specs 060/50 does  1.66x faster than 040/40. Check your facts  about the cores.
 

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Re: Interesting 1200
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2011, 05:12:46 PM »
Quote from: LaserBack;661162
don't be idiot what do you think ? that the 060 is a core i7 ? loi
that's graphic results are accurate of course were not done with the buggy sysspeed
and you can see I'm right that the 060/50 is only 1.3x faster than the 040/040
sysspeed reports 28 mips on the 040/40 and 66mips on the 060/50 and that's totally out of range and giving the 040 a weak weak integer result
to make sure what I'm talking about anyone can get sysspeed modules of both processors on aminet and compare

http://aminet.net/util/moni/A1240_040.lha
http://aminet.net/util/moni/A2k_50_60_Bliz.lha

So you are calling me an idiot?
After reading that last thread nothing you write on these forums will be taken seriously.

And what are you talking about that the graph is showing that 060/50 is only 1.3 times faster then 040/40?
The 040/40 gets 41MIPS while the 060/50 gets 80 mips. How the hell do you get that to 1.3 times faster? 1.3 times faster yould be 53.3mips
 

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Re: Interesting 1200
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2011, 05:32:37 PM »
Quote from: LaserBack;661209
That's because the 040 and the 060 have identical cores....in fact the 040 overclocked to 50mhz performs identical as the 060/50


That's not even close to true.
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Interesting 1200
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2011, 06:04:15 PM »
Quote from: LaserBack;661209
That's because the 040 and the 060 have identical cores....


What drugs are you on?

Must be the milspec kind!
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Re: Interesting 1200
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2011, 06:30:15 PM »
Quote from: LaserBack;661209

That's because the 040 and the 060 have identical cores....in fact the 040 overclocked to 50mhz performs identical as the 060/50


if that was true (identical cores), it would have been called the 050 and not the 060.

taken from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_68000_family

"Odd-numbered releases had always been reactions to issues raised within the previous even numbered part; hence, it was generally expected that the 68050 would have reduced the 68040's power consumption...The 68010 was a revised version of the 68000 with minor modifications to the core, and likewise the 68030 was a revised 68020 with some more powerful features, none of them significant enough to classify as a major upgrade to the core."
 

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Re: Interesting 1200
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2011, 06:45:17 PM »
Quote from: stefcep2;661173
MIPS=meaningless indicator of performance

It actually means million instructions per second. Like any benchmark, you have to understand what it's telling you.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it meaningless.