AmigaOne 500

[amigadave]

Yes, there is a certain amount of competition for users that way, but they're not really on the same turf. Apart from the Peg2 they don't run on the same hardware, and neither set of developers is going to change that. New (returning) users have the choice of which OS they want to use, but it's not an equal comparison since there's a vast rift between the hardware bases. So they can choose to spend a heap of money on new hardware and AmigaOS4, or far less money on 2nd hand hardware and MorphOS, or less money again on AROS. Different people in different situations are going to go for different approaches depending on what they need or want, and seeing as there's so little overlap between the different systems, I'm sure most potential customers would end up falling into one or other system almost automatically.

Perhaps those OS4 users you say are retreating into a shell are sick and tired of being told that they made the wrong choice, that they've wasted their money, and so on. What's the point in that? I'm well aware of the differences between MOS and OS4, and I get quite fed up with it. I enjoy my hobby and don't want to be constantly given reasons again and again why I shouldn't be partaking in the way I do, why doing it the MOS way is better, cheaper and faster. I don't care, though I wouldn't consider myself having retreated into a shell. I'm just ignoring the criticisms that float my direction so I can enjoy my hobby as *I* want.

Good answer.

I don't understand the choice to use AmigaOS4.x instead of using MorphOS2.x, but I never try to convince anyone to switch if they don't want to for personal, or emotional reasons.  I only try to point out the technical strong points and advantages of MorphOS2.x and let people make their own choices.  (at least that is what I try to keep to.  sometimes I admit to being sucked into senseless arguments, but I am getting better at avoiding them as I get older)

Since OS4 has the advantage of the name "AmigaOS", MorphOS users need to counter that advantage with regular dispersal of information about the capabilities and differences between the two competing OSes, to those returning (and some current, but uninformed) Amiga users.  I don't mean to intentionally push this info down the throats of OS4 users that have already made their choice.

I think all the variety of Amiga choices are good to have around in some ways, as different people want different Amiga-Like systems now, but it does make it harder for any company to make enough money to stay making Amiga-Like OSes and software.  It would be better if OS4, MorphOS and AROS could grow closer together and share more code than they already do (mostly just AROS & MorphOS at this moment in time).

[freqmax]

So how does the application offers differ between AmigaOS4.x and MorphOS2.x ..?

[HotRod]

As I said earlier in the thread, I don't have an interest in OS4 myself, but I feel bad for people who do and are stuck with having to shell out $800-1200 for something that even a $100 used Mac outperforms.

That, and I resent the implication some people keep making, that people who express their disappointment that ACube's lead-on marketing stunt was only to announce their same product at the same basic price but in an ugly case are just haters, and that this (like the X1000) is automatically entitled to our adulation just for existing.

You must feal really sorry about people then, sounds nice and a bit scary at the same time to engage yourself so much in a product that does not interest you for the sake of other people. I can think that it is bad but I choose to not put more energy into something that isn't my decision. It doesn't help, it doesn't make me happy and it doesn't change anything. Or at least I try to not get engaged, depending on how well my A1 are working. If it breaks I might not be able/want to buy the 500 or X1000.

[HotRod]

http://morphos-team.net/releasenotes-2.6.html ??

Yes but just for G4, right?

[spirantho]

For me, my problem with MorphOS users pushing their OS isn't the way it's done, it's the timing.
In a hypothetical thread, for instance, entitled "I want an AmigaOS system and don't know what to buy!", a reasoned discussion of the MOS/AOS/AROS options is welcome.
In another hypothetical thread which may be entitled "New AmigaOne 500 released", going on about how it's overpriced and how MOS is better and yada yada yada is not welcome. If you don't like AOS 4 - fine, but don't bother us with your yelling, keep it to a thread that's about MOS.
Inidentally, I'm not hiding in any shell, despite being primarily an AOS user. I also occasionally use and develop for MOS and AROS too. I just find AOS is the best for me.

And if you feel sorry for me for spending money on brand new hardware for my hobby - don't. I'm not three years old, I know what I'm buying!

[ajlwalker]

For me, my problem with MorphOS users pushing their OS isn't the way it's done, it's the timing.
In a hypothetical thread, for instance, entitled "I want an AmigaOS system and don't know what to buy!", a reasoned discussion of the MOS/AOS/AROS options is welcome.
In another hypothetical thread which may be entitled "New AmigaOne 500 released", going on about how it's overpriced and how MOS is better and yada yada yada is not welcome. If you don't like AOS 4 - fine, but don't bother us with your yelling, keep it to a thread that's about MOS.
Inidentally, I'm not hiding in any shell, despite being primarily an AOS user. I also occasionally use and develop for MOS and AROS too. I just find AOS is the best for me.

And if you feel sorry for me for spending money on brand new hardware for my hobby - don't. I'm not three years old, I know what I'm buying!

I think this is fair comment.

At some stage I will be buying an OS4 capable machine, sadly I literally have no space for it at present.

Once I have a permanent home sorted out it will be one of the first things I buy.  Having said that, if an OS4 laptop was on the market, I'd buy it today.

I too find it amusing that so many people try to "warn" potential buyers of OS4 machines of the limitations.  I'm pretty sure all these limitations have been weighed up before the decision to buy.

[itix]

For me, my problem with MorphOS users pushing their OS isn't the way it's done, it's the timing.
In a hypothetical thread, for instance, entitled "I want an AmigaOS system and don't know what to buy!", a reasoned discussion of the MOS/AOS/AROS options is welcome.
In another hypothetical thread which may be entitled "New AmigaOne 500 released", going on about how it's overpriced and how MOS is better and yada yada yada is not welcome. If you don't like AOS 4 - fine, but don't bother us with your yelling, keep it to a thread that's about MOS.
Inidentally, I'm not hiding in any shell, despite being primarily an AOS user. I also occasionally use and develop for MOS and AROS too. I just find AOS is the best for me.

And if you feel sorry for me for spending money on brand new hardware for my hobby - don't. I'm not three years old, I know what I'm buying!

So, being AmigaOS user I am entitled to warn everyone to not buy AmigaOS =P

[Tripitaka]

I too find it amusing that so many people try to "warn" potential buyers of OS4 machines of the limitations.  I'm pretty sure all these limitations have been weighed up before the decision to buy.

+1, Sadly no one involved with OS4 in any way seems able to have a relevant thread without a flock of naysaying anti-OS4 types adding unwelcome and useless comments. It's nothing more than dull time wasting in between the proper comments. I notice that in MOS and AROS discussion threads people uninterested in such things just stay away (for the most part at least), I just wish those uninterested in OS4 would have the manners to do the same.