Update Amiga 600

[AmiDude]

The fact that we have different views on certain aspects doesn't mean that some of us lack common sense!

I got 4x A600's over the years... and all of them had Kickstart 37.299 or 37.300 that sux!
Sure if you have 37.350 then you're set for Workbench 2.x and WHDLoad (if you have some extra memory (PCMCIA, A608, MTec, Apollo, ACA etc).

If you have some accelerator though... I find it really akward not to mention silly not to invest 15 euro for the 3.1 Kickstart.

Opinions are like a$$holes though... Everybody's has one


@save2600
+1

About the "common sence" thing; That was not intended seriously. (hence the wink icon).
So, take it easy dude!

I've got at the moment 3 A600's, and each of them has standard v37.350 in them.
One A600 got an ACA630 build in and the other has a MTec630/40Mhz. They both run
W.B. 2.1. So, you think it's akward and silly not to invest in KS3.1?! Why?!
I can do with wb2.1 everything what with wb3.1 also is possible.
I think you're the one who's silly here to believe KS3.1 is so allmighty, but infact it gives you only the useless datatypes feature.
And it makes me sick to see that every time some poor new Amiga fan asks what he can do with his A600, then guys like you are shoving the poor sucker KS3.1 down the throat!
Or, even worse try to persuade people to run WB3.9 on their slow 030 systems.
What's the fun of that, huh?!
So stop terrorising people with your weird opinions!

[mfilos]

@Amidude
No need to make accusations or take it personal.

As you can see in both of my posts I said that 37.350 is perfectly cool along with Workbench 2.1 that is indeed awesome as well.
Unless you convince me that 37.299 or 37.300 kickstarts are good to have instead of the easy solution of the 15euro Kickstart 3.1.... then I think there is nothing to talk about.

I haven't said that KS3.1 is allmighty as you said, but indeed is a lot better than 37.299/37.300 and easier to find than 37.350.

Also I'm one of the A600 enthusiasts and supporters and never suggested/tried to persuade extreme and expensive stuff to new Amiga users.

Terrorizing people with weird opinions? wtf! LOL

[AmiDude]

@Amidude
No need to make accusations or take it personal.

As you can see in both of my posts I said that 37.350 is perfectly cool along with Workbench 2.1 that is indeed awesome as well.
Unless you convince me that 37.299 or 37.300 kickstarts are good to have instead of the easy solution of the 15euro Kickstart 3.1.... then I think there is nothing to talk about.

I haven't said that KS3.1 is allmighty as you said, but indeed is a lot better than 37.299/37.300 and easier to find than 37.350.

Also I'm one of the A600 enthusiasts and supporters and never suggested/tried to persuade extreme and expensive stuff to new Amiga users.

Terrorizing people with weird opinions? wtf! LOL

I haven't mentioned KS37.299 or 37.300. So, next time, read the posts more carefully.
All I'm saying is that "if" you got KS37.350 in your A600, there's no need for upgrade to 3.1. Unless you want, for some odd reason, to install W.B.3.9.

About you having a weird opinion and terrorising people:

@ mfilos wrote:

"Also I'm one of the A600 enthusiasts and supporters and never suggested/tried to persuade extreme and expensive stuff to new Amiga users.

Terrorizing people with weird opinions? wtf! LOL"

But in this very same thread you wote:

@ mfilos wrote:
"If you have some accelerator though... I find it really akward not to mention silly not to invest 15 euro for the 3.1 Kickstart."

I state my point. This IS indeed a weird opinion... LOL

[mfilos]

I said something about opinions in the same post as well
...terrorizing is another thing though.

Anywayz, I guess we all said our points of view and we kinda agree that 37.350+ is the way to go on an A600 (if you wanna use Hard Drives that is, cause you might as well use a plain 1.3 Kickstart for floppy usage and be done with).

It's all of what you wanna do, and how much are you willing to spend

/sign off

[AmiDude]

...Anywayz, I guess we all said our points of view and we kinda agree that 37.350+ is the way to go on an A600 (if you wanna use Hard Drives that is, cause you might as well use a plain 1.3 Kickstart for floppy usage and be done with).

It's all of what you wanna do, and how much are you willing to spend

/sign off

That's more like it! Let people decide for themselfs. No need to shove them KS3.1 down their throats! :laughing:

[AmiDude]

the best way to expand A600 is to get or make that Russian 8Mb fast ram expansion (iirc, A608). it has best price/upgrade ratio. you can find it on amibay or similar.

Yep, that's a real nice expansion!

[danwood]

Kickstart 3.1 is one of least expensive investments one can make. If you want serious Hard Disk usage, even 37.300 isn't good and I really find hard to believe that you can find easily an 37.350 Kickstart without having to ask politely someone to burn it for you.

There is nothing wrong with 37.300, the "it can only access 40 megs bug" is a falsehood, a fallacy spread on the forums over the last decade or so.  

I have two Amiga 600s, both run 37.300 and have 4 gig cfcards in them, split into two 2 gig partitions, no problems at all, ran fine for years.

The only revision you need to be wary of is 37.299 which apparently lacks IDE support!

[mfilos]

@danwood
Well you're kright. 37.300 works just fine but in that Amiga and only (or at least Amigas with that kickstart).
At least in a test of 2x 37.300 kickstarts (before I upgrade them to 3.1)... mounting the CF/HD to WinUAE with 3.1 kickstart environment... and HD wasn't booting.
Also preping an HD on WinUAE and mounting it on the 37.300 Amiga... and hard disk wasn't working as well!
Only if you prep/install HD on that specific Amiga worked for me.
It's like a misaligned floppy who's disks... only work on your machine and noone's else

Never had this issue with Kickstart 3.1 (I guess it's the same with 37.350 but never owned one to test).

[TheMud]

Ehmmm... guys ... Really irritating, you are arguing on my thread - hard to read the parts with what to do then.

But always fun when nerds are in a fight. Watch out for those pocket protecters of yours ;-)