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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 26, 2011, 12:57:22 AM »
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Anyhow, what I am doing is Taking Screen shots of models from Jedi Outcast inside Windows.

Why don't you do the resizing in Windows as well? Personally I use IrfanView which is a small and fast image viewer that can also be used for manipulating images in various ways. It also includes the Lanczos filter for resizing.

http://www.irfanview.com/


Quote from: Cammy;651418
I use ImageStudio for resizing, remapping, dithering and processing images all the time.

Looks interesting Cammy, guess I have to check out this program.
 

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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2011, 02:09:04 AM »
The best software I found for resizing in Windows was Fotosizer, but...

I prefer to work under Windows as little as possible. It's bad enough that all my mapping and Wad editing needs must be done there.
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2011, 07:41:01 PM »
Alright, here are a few examples of what I'm working with. I have provided to ZIP files, one contains screen shots of some of the models I'm trying to shrink down and use, and the other contains a texture of a crate in it's original form, it's shrank form, it's shrank and sharpened form, and at long last shrank with new palette(s) applied.

The textures for the most part are not problematic. I am pretty happy with the results, though I noticed that once I apply the Palette's that some of the colors bleed. In the case of the file with the DOOM Palette, I already cleaned it up, but I have not touched to colors on the one with the Dark Forces Palette, so you can see what I'm talking about on that one.

As for the sprites, if you compare Sentry.BMP with Sentry.PNG you can see how horrible the images begin to look once shrank. If anyone can manage to shrink any of these models down without loosing so much detail, then PLEASE by all means, let me know how you do it!

For the note, small sprites like the Sentry need to be shrank down to something like 42x42 pixels, where as the the Storm Troopers need to fit in a pixel range of something like 45x56 (width height). As for the Mech1, it will need to fit within a pixel ratio of 50x70 (width x height).

EDIT: I can not upload anything here but the Crates after they have been shrank and treated. Amiga.org's file size limit is WAY to low!!!

Going to have to upload the rest to my page then come back and link to them. Grrr. :/


http://starwarslegacy.net/Documents/DFCRATE1.zip

http://starwarslegacy.net/Documents/Models.zip
« Last Edit: July 26, 2011, 07:59:19 PM by XDelusion »
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2011, 10:20:19 PM »
your included Sentry.png was a little bigger (50x52).

original


yours


some resizes with imagemagick (that I have handy on this pc)

(Adaptive Resize)


(resize - point filter)


(resize - Lagrange order 3 filter)


(resize - Lagrange order 4 filter)


(resize - lanczos filter)


(resize - mitchell)


there are other filters / options to scale too http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/resize/ and you could do other processing to improve it
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2011, 11:08:28 PM »
I'll have to look at those at home, my parent's computer screen is too dark.

But thank you for having a look, I'm eager to see what they look like on a good screen!

As for the reason mine was larger. It's because that's as small as I could get it before it  looked like utter and total crap. In fact I still think my end result looks pretty crappy, I had one that looked a tad bit better, but forgot to include it.

Anyhow, if you could possibly shrink down one of the other models to fit within the specs I mentioned, I'll REALLY be impressed! I always ended up with a bunch of blocks that hardly resembled the original model.

On that note, I may have to take smaller screen shots of the models to begin with. That has helped in the past, but again, zooming out the model results in less detail.
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2011, 11:46:08 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;651815

Anyhow, if you could possibly shrink down one of the other models to fit within the specs I mentioned, I'll REALLY be impressed! I always ended up with a bunch of blocks that hardly resembled the original model.


Once you have viewed em on a decent screen, let me know if you prefer any of my scaling ones from yours and if so ill do the resize (please give me a list of sizes for each image as I wasnt sure about the size you wanted for some of them)

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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2011, 06:54:02 AM »
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Sorry to break in but.. just before I quit the Amiga scene in 2001 or something like that, I was using an excellent Image/Video Converter program. Unfortunately, I dont remember how it was called.. Ive checked Aminet but found nothing like it. I think it used PPC to speed up things and I remember it had a good looking GUI. Can someone point me in the right direction?
 


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Superview?
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2011, 09:17:19 AM »
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You can download ImageStudio from Aminet, then copy the keyfile to the program directory once you've installed it:



@ Cammy

Call me stupit but the key is not working for me.
I installed the key @ the root from the imagestudio just like you say :-)
Is the key still valid ?

Edit: Key is not valid anymore !!
This one is working: http://www.mediafire.com/?a8pesq4359sz2dj
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2011, 03:24:51 PM »
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When I hit Save, I can choose the format, and I suppose I just change the extension when saving, but when I choose Save As, I don't get to select the format.


Hmm... You have the format list in the Save Image window. It just saves in the selected format with both Save and Save As buttons. As usual (with Amiga), the file extension doesn't matter.

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I guess so, but I think it's more about if he needs certain function or somebody begs for something enough :) Anyway, author is very familiar for all demosceners here.. he's kiero/MaWi.. you can find him on IRC too :)

btw. there's Picasa Web Album manager for ShowGirls too... it's available there
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2011, 05:43:13 PM »
@Cammy I thanked you in PM but in case you missed it, thanks a lot for that link!
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2011, 07:15:25 PM »
Quote from: buzz;651824
Once you have viewed em on a decent screen, let me know if you prefer any of my scaling ones from yours and if so ill do the resize (please give me a list of sizes for each image as I wasnt sure about the size you wanted for some of them)

Cheers.


Looks like I did end up sharing my best result after all. I just needed to replace the redness on the edges with more black and Grays.

I thank you for the offer, but what I'm looking to do here is give time for a few people to experiment and submit their results. Then if someone can come up with something that is a step above the rest, I'd like then to share their methods so I can learn from them.
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2011, 08:00:21 AM »
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@ Cammy

Call me stupit but the key is not working for me.
I installed the key @ the root from the imagestudio just like you say :-)
Is the key still valid ?

Edit: Key is not valid anymore !!
This one is working: http://www.mediafire.com/?a8pesq4359sz2dj


The keyfile works fine for me and other people who have tried it. It was given away free to the Amiga community with a copy of CU Amiga Magazine and is registered to DrawStudio, a demo of which came on the cover CD that issue.

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@Cammy I thanked you in PM but in case you missed it, thanks a lot for that link!


No problem, sorry I haven't gotten around to replying yet, I'm swamped with private messages I need to reply to.
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2011, 09:09:21 AM »
@Cammy

Strange it was not working on my FPGAreplay board.
The one I linkt is working on the replay board.
I have a go on a A1200 see if it works on that machine.
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2011, 09:54:53 AM »
That is kind of strange, and I can't explain it really. But I'm glad you managed to find a keyfile that works for you anyway, I have downloaded it so I have a backup to send to anyone else who might require it in the future.
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2011, 10:55:33 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;651974
That is kind of strange, and I can't explain it really. But I'm glad you managed to find a keyfile that works for you anyway, I have downloaded it so I have a backup to send to anyone else who might require it in the future.


Mmm, I'm also in the dark about this, but he it's working now :-)
And thanks for this prog. I always use ADPRO so I give imagestudio a go !
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Re: Image Size Reduction Software
« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2011, 08:44:45 PM »
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Hmm... You have the format list in the Save Image window. It just saves in the selected format with both Save and Save As buttons. As usual (with Amiga), the file extension doesn't matter.


If I select SAVE, that is an option, if I select where I want to save, it is not.

Anyhow, changing the file extension does not seem to do the trick. I loaded up some of these files in Paint Shop Pro under Windows and it does not recognize the format as being JPG, PNG, or what ever. I had to load them up in Paint ++ then save them again in order to get Paint Shop Pro to open them.
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