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Stupid Etherlink III question.
« on: January 21, 2011, 10:41:25 PM »
I have a stack of Etherlink IIIs (from 3C589Cs to Ds) and the appropriate dongles to go with them.   I've tried using it under Genesis and WB 3.9 using the 3C589.lha driver.  The card is found fine, and Genesis puts it online with no problems, but I never get a link light (and of course, ethernet traffic never goes anywhere).  I'm overlooking something obvious, but what?
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Re: Stupid Etherlink III question.
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 11:17:59 PM »
Bad Dongle? Have you tried it in a PC? Have you created the appropriate entries for DNS and the like? I have used these cards on my A1200 with no problem.
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Re: Stupid Etherlink III question.
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2011, 11:39:34 PM »
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Bad Dongle? Have you tried it in a PC? Have you created the appropriate entries for DNS and the like? I have used these cards on my A1200 with no problem.


The PC finds it fine as well.  Yes, the DNS entries are fine too (I've got a working PCMCIA card on the same machine as well).   I've gone through 4 cards and 3 dongles.

Do you get a link light?  Is the dongle a 10/100 dongle?
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Re: Stupid Etherlink III question.
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 10:05:52 AM »
Hmm - those 3Coms (at least their ISA brothers) had a DOS tool coming with them for configuration (media, I/O port, IRQ, ...). Try setting everything to default in there, possibly something's off.

If a basic ping doesn't work you can try this:

From a Windoze PC you can check if TCP/IP's is basically running by issuing
Code: [Select]
ping <Amiga's IP address>
arp -a
(need to be input rather quickly since ARP cache times out in 10 secs or so)

In Linux it's something like arp -i AFAIR.

In comparison to a normal ping this also works with 'stealth mode' (ICMP Echo request not honored) and with borked up routing. The only thing required is that the target NIC's got an IP address and sender and target must share the same subnet which can be accomplished by temporarily setting up the sender with a netmask of 0.0.0.0.
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Re: Stupid Etherlink III question.
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2011, 10:21:05 AM »
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The PC finds it fine as well.  Yes, the DNS entries are fine too (I've got a working PCMCIA card on the same machine as well).   I've gone through 4 cards and 3 dongles.


You say the PC finds the card, but does it actually send/receive data?

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Do you get a link light?  Is the dongle a 10/100 dongle?


Is that what you're using? It needs to be a 10Mbps-only dongle AFAIK.
 

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Re: Stupid Etherlink III question.
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2011, 02:31:53 PM »
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You say the PC finds the card, but does it actually send/receive data?



Is that what you're using? It needs to be a 10Mbps-only dongle AFAIK.


This is kind of what I was thinking.   It tries to send, and it doesn't go anywhere (basically ping timeouts, not that it can't open the device for sending).   I'll see if I can't hunt down 10mbps dongles.  Thanks.
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Re: Stupid Etherlink III question.
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 01:06:30 AM »
Welp, that turned out to be the issue.

10MBPs dongles are the only things that work.  10/100s don't.

Now I know.

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Re: Stupid Etherlink III question.
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2011, 03:35:49 AM »
In linux use tcpdump

If you don't get any response the problem is in driver or hardware. If you get something have a look at your network configuration, ipconfig, dns, etc.