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Questions for Converting 8mm film
« on: December 10, 2010, 05:29:58 PM »
A family member asked me if I could help figure out how to convert old 8mm film to dvd. I have done some looking into the subject and still have a bit to learn. My goal is to preserve quality as much as possible in the conversion. But I am still trying to figure out:

Is some affordable freeze frame type equipment out there?

A there any members who have done this before and any tips would be helpful.

Do any members do this in the Michigan area?
 

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Re: Questions for Converting 8mm film
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 05:56:26 PM »
I'm in a similar boat with some super 8s that I'd like to convert. A quick internet search resolved the "who can do it?" question for me.

That said, if you're looking to do it yourself, this tutorial may be of some interest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bKRCD-06-M
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Re: Questions for Converting 8mm film
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2010, 06:42:52 PM »
It's a pain in the ass to do it yourself and you need to have the right equipment. Honestly, the last time I needed it done, I let my fingers do the walking and found a nice small company locally that took ALL my film reels and did the transfer. Cost was totally worth not having to deal with all the hassle. a dozen or so reels for a little less than $100 and I'm happy with the quality.

If you had 8mm video tape, then that would be a slightly different story as it's a lot "easier" to do yourself. Still, a video capture card and editing software would need to be involved - not to mention all the time spent working it all out.

I'm sure someone near you locally can help. Do a white or yellow pages search if you no longer have a phonebook handy  :)  

If you really get in a bind, I bet you could send your stuff to where I had my transfers done: Videogenics in Janesville, WI. I actually know a couple of guys that work there now, including the owner. Good people that do great work.
 

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Re: Questions for Converting 8mm film
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2010, 07:18:26 PM »
You can do it at home if you have a telecine device.  It's basically a box into which you shine the film projector....it projects onto a little screen and you video it with your video camera:

http://www.projectormovies.com/telecine/telecine%20box/2008-09-23%20Goldbeam%20Producer%20II%20film-to-video%20transfer/Goldbeam%20Producer%20II%20film-to-video%20transfer%20004.JPG

These devices aren't too expensive and I've seen a few show up in Thrift stores for around $20 each.

But, like the other posters say, it's probably just a lot less hassle (and better quality) to have an experienced company do the conversion for you.
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Re: Questions for Converting 8mm film
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2010, 04:49:53 AM »
Yeah, I did this for many years for a video production company (Christmas time was the busy season for film transfers).  I used a device like the one ral-clan linked to.  It's expensive to have film converted because it isn't just and automated process where you just run through and digitized. You to have a person sitting there playing/watching the movie and record it with a video camera (making sure no hair gets in the screen/stop and slice it when film breaks, etc). Then its edited all together.


You can do this at home however with good results.  You need a room that is dark and people won't be turning the lights on while you do the process.  And a tripod for your digital video camera.

Setup the projector to play the movie on a screen (white bed sheet) and set it close so the image is maybe only 12 to 17 inches across so that it is clear and bright.  Now setup the digital video camera close/zoom so it fills the viewfinder. (Might turn off auto focus if that is an option with your digital video camera and focus manually)

Now you just have to sit through hours of your 8mm tapes and record them.  Transfer the digital stuff over to your computer and edit with whatever software you can find.  Burn to DVD.
 

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Re: Questions for Converting 8mm film
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2010, 06:33:02 AM »
You could go the professional route with several vendors, most of which are in the Los Angeles area, and they'll clean the films, splice them together, and use the same telecine equipment used to transfer feature films.

My grandmother, however, took her reels to Costco. They transferred everything to DVD for her for something like $20.
 

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Re: Questions for Converting 8mm film
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2010, 07:59:59 PM »
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You could go the professional route with several vendors, most of which are in the Los Angeles area, and they'll clean the films, splice them together, and use the same telecine equipment used to transfer feature films.

My grandmother, however, took her reels to Costco. They transferred everything to DVD for her for something like $20.

Yeah, most places have someone that will do it professionally (just look up Video Production in the yellow pages) as that is how a lot of video companies make extra money, especially around the holidays.

Costco is another option as well.  Costco and most the other professional places with run some software on the digital files to clean it up/stablize and shaking.  Again, you can find similar software to do this your self.

The big thing comes down to price.  Costco for example is $17.99 for the first 150 feet, $.11 per foot per additional foot.  

150 feet is just over ten minutes of film.  If you have an hour of film that's going to cost you a little less than $100.  Which is a good deal for all you get.  

The other advantage of doing it yourself though is the ability edit just the parts you want, add text and transitions, music, etc.  All features like that are going to bump up the cost into the $100s from a professional.
 

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Re: Questions for Converting 8mm film
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2010, 09:02:23 PM »
Around the Detroit metro area Ritz Camera advertises this service. I've never used them myself, but you could call them. It shouldn't be too hard to rig up one of those telecine devices... it's just a beam splitter in a box. If you still have the projector and a good size screen, you can just project the movies and shoot them with a camcorder. If you keep the camera axis close to the projector, you can minimize the keystone effect you get when shooting this way.  -- that's the advantage to the beamsplitter approach, you can align the setup properly.
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Re: Questions for Converting 8mm film
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 04:22:13 AM »
thanks for all the input so far. I have 2300 ft most of it is good footage. there are a couple that seem over/underexposed in spots and I am hoping to be able to adjust the brightness somehow. Can this be done with telecine equipment? Walgreens actually said $26 for a dvd, but no footage amount and they send it out. The telecine idea sounds good I was looking for a better option but not finding it for less than $350 and thats just a bit out of budget right now. I'm trying to find a relative with a good cam corder to try taping from the screen but no luck yet. tried with my phone and web cam but it didn't turn out well.
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Re: Questions for Converting 8mm film
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 06:47:53 AM »
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thanks for all the input so far. I have 2300 ft most of it is good footage. there are a couple that seem over/underexposed in spots and I am hoping to be able to adjust the brightness somehow. Can this be done with telecine equipment? Walgreens actually said $26 for a dvd, but no footage amount and they send it out. The telecine idea sounds good I was looking for a better option but not finding it for less than $350 and thats just a bit out of budget right now. I'm trying to find a relative with a good cam corder to try taping from the screen but no luck yet. tried with my phone and web cam but it didn't turn out well.

Make sure you're using a projector with variable speed adjustment so you can sync up the frame rates to reduce flicker.
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