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Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« on: November 04, 2010, 01:40:08 PM »
So, finally have some cash to splurge and wanting some nice things to treat my faithful little A1000 that has been my companion for over two decades now without failing me.

What I would like is an internal hard drive adaptor for it (so that would exclusively be ICD's Ad-IDE yes?) to install a simple little 4gb hard drive from a notebook. Must be autobooting!
 
Later I would like a processor slot accelerator WITH 32bit fast ram. Unless it's a 14mhz clock doubled 68000 card then no need for RAM to go with the accelerator. But that's for later, a nice CSA 030 with 4mb 32bit FAST RAM and the utility to load KS into 32bit RAM would be fantastic though for my needs.

If you know where to get known working Ad-IDE cards please let me know. If you know of an alternative for adding internal 2.5" drives to my A1000 that auto-boot again please let me know.

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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 02:08:31 PM »
The only one that had been readily available recently that I know of was http://www.students.tut.fi/~leinone3/ide/ide68k.html, not sure if he's still producing them.

Great card, but autoboot would be tough on a 1000 without the right kickstart.
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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 02:31:26 PM »
What you seek is every A1000 owners wet dream. Those internal IDE adapters are incredibly rare to come by and the one Tone007 pointed to is not really designed for the A1000. I had one and in order for it to fit, you'd have to remove the CF adapter end of it or build yourself a 68000 displacement board. Then it requires you to have at least Kickstart 3.1 in ROM for it to Autoboot. OR be prepared to patch the needed scsi.device into Kickstart 1.3. Next, you'd have to solder 2 wires (INT2 and something else) to the mainboard. Lastly, you'd have to remove the internal 3.5" floppy if you're going to mount a HD in its place or perhaps, squeeze a 2.5" drive in somewhere. If you remove the floppy though, now you'd better have Kickstart 2.x or 3.x inside so that you could boot off an external drive. ICD made something called the Shuffle Board that routes the internal drive to external (good luck finding one though). But I guess if you built yourself a 68000 displacement board, you could try using a CF card as a HD. And while you're at it, there's diagrams out there that show how to solder a Kickstart chip to your CPU.  

Basically, as you can see and after all these years - there still isn't a practical internal HD solution for the A1000. Fortunately, external boxes are more readily available and there's also some Slingshots floating around that allow you to use Zorro II cards (A2091 for example) with your A1000. Not exactly the most elegant of solutions, but...  :lol:
 

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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2010, 02:55:28 PM »
looks like some great ideas you have for your a1000 but sadly it will become just a dream peoject. the stuff your asking for is very rare as some others here said. but if you have north of $1500 to spend and alot of time anything is possible. i just stick to my a1200 its cheaper and possible to forfill my dream amiga classic. i only miss one thing the indivison, so waiting for a new batch of the indivision to be ready then i am there :-)
 

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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2010, 03:27:29 PM »
An internal hard drive on your amiga 1000?

Only amiga makes it impossible.  :)

I think it really should be possible. I'd love to have a 1000 with an indivision and an internal hard drive. On the advice of others concerning the hard drive, I never tried, and I 'm pretty nerdy in that I can solder
but not rebuild whole boards or anything too big.
 
I hear that adapter referenced works great in an amiga 500 or 2000 though.... in the 1000 it would work, but its a BIG project.
 
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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2010, 03:40:31 PM »
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I hear that adapter referenced works great in an amiga 500 or 2000 though.... in the 1000 it would work, but its a BIG project.


Exactly. The CFIDE68k board did work splendidly (did I just say that?) in my A500. Just had to solder a couple of wires near the expansion bus was all. Oh and of course, I had a 3.1 ROM in it. Worked just as advertised!
 

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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2010, 03:48:49 PM »
It should also work with Kickstart 2.0, at least the one that came with the A600 (2.05?) since it works like the A600's IDE.
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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2010, 04:04:16 PM »
Every time I read stuff like this I'm thankful for the upcoming FPGA arcade. Splurge on one of those instead and put your A1000 in a glass cabinet.
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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2010, 04:10:46 PM »
Some A500 accelerators for the CPU socket do provide IDE ports (such as Viper520 CD).
I do not know if it could be fitted to an A1000 though.
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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 06:10:43 PM »
Keep the original Amiga original! If you want a souped up Amiga, get a 1200 and load it up with a good accelerator, CF drive, PCMCIA ethernet... or a really kickass 2000 can be built for very cheap if you don't need AGA. My 1000 has the RAM expansion but other than that is totally stock. Don't wanna mess with a classic.
 

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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 08:12:38 PM »
Thanks to everyone for the great advice here, much appreciated.

The only problem with things that plug into the CPU made for A500 sockets is that on the A1000 it's right up against the left side of the casing and so may not fit. I've seen the Ad-IDE card on a 25th anniversary Amiga video someone posted here in their A1000 so it's is possible if a bit McGyver in construction. 030 and IDE adaptor on the 68000 socket could be a nightmare for dry joints/shorts I admit but the HDD is essential really.

As long as it auto boots after kickstart is loaded and survives a warm boot that's good enough :) It's to help me doing my game I am working on. In 6 months I will probably retire after 'Achieving Hampstead'. And I like KS 1.3, happy happy memories as strange as that sounds and the white/orange/blue combo rocks!

My A1200/600 is not as nice to type on, and my two A2000s are dead and they used clunky old 40mb SCSI drives. Alright for 1990 but erm.....anyway :)

I will keep a saved worldwide search on fleabay and wait 18 months then I guess.
 

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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2010, 09:01:49 PM »
Try to contact tomthul (amibay) for his A1000 RAM/IDE board.
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-A3K(D)030@25MHz/134MB RAM/KS3.1/OS3.9/Buster11/RETINA Z2/OKTAGON 2008/VLAB YC/MIDI/DKB3128/HDD18GB
-A2K/ROM 1.3-3.1/2MBCHIP/8MB/A2091/OKTAGON 2008/A2058/TANDEM IDE/FlickerFixer-Scandoubler/Genlock
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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2010, 06:02:05 PM »
Looks like he hasn't responded in a while to his own thread.
 

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Re: Internal hard drive options for A1000/A500?
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2010, 06:11:58 PM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;589910
Looks like he hasn't responded in a while to his own thread.


You should e-mail him directly. That's how I got through and purchased a couple of his boards. BTW: last we spoke, said he was working on a 2mb-8mb + CF<>IDE board. His latest batch may well have RAM built in now. Awesome!