Subway USB and AmigaAMP

[Retrofan]

Thanks, ' wasn't so hide (it's only I have some hurry when I'm using an unregistered IBrowse).
 

The only explanation I can think of is that the device somehow is registered as usbaudio.class device and that causes the weird AHI behaviour. Quite bizarre really.

Ok, so nobody knows what to do or try?
 
Nobody has installed a Subway and can try opening AmigaAmp?
 
And the AmigaKIt people, can't you say something about it? &BTW do you like my photos?

[Retrofan]

Forget it. It's solved. I don't understand this bizarre thing really, but I installed poseidon and trident in another HD CF I have and now it works.
 
The only thing I find could be culprit is the AmigaAmp program. I had it already installed with a direct access through Sys4Aga on the screen, but as I didn't like the skin, I downloaded another version and changed the drawers with the new ones, making the new AmigaAmp being opened using that Sys4Aga direct access.
 
In the other HD I have the old version (or perhaps it's the same with a different skin?) of AmigaAmp and it's the one that works.
 
So I will change again the program in the other HD and if I want to change the skin will use another way.
 
Perhaps it can be other thing, because I've noticed a lot of crashes in the usual HD, but no one with the other. I believe I will change the system information from one to another.
 
EDIT:
Well, I've been too fast to say that. In fact it works with the system copy, but after I installed a couple of things it has started to make the same, this time with the old AmigaAmp program. I have to see one by one which of the adds I make to that System copy makes AmigaAmp make that.

[Retrofan]

I've been wrong thinking the other HD was working. No, it wasn't. The explanation is that I installed the Poseidon program with the USB stick attached, and the AmigaAmp program worked, so I thought all was right. I've tried it again: it has the same request for AHI. As I've said it doesn't makes that request always: it doesn't if I have opened AmigaAmp before I put the stick and didn't when I installed the program with the USB stick on.
 
So, I have no idea what to do.

[PanterHZ]

Just a thought I had: You have the subway connected to the clockport  right? Well the same port can also be used with certain soundcards, and  maybe what happens is that either AHI or AmigaAmp notices that something  is connected to the clockport, and it then belives that you have a  soundcard connected there - with the result of trying to send the audio  output to it.

[Retrofan]

Yes, I agree it can be that.
 
With the Subway I've found two problems; this and the other is the one you have when you try to open Whdload games (not all). To open some of them you have to put Poseidon offline with Trident. I've been told in The Zone there are Usb icons to put it on or off, but yesterday I read this Thread from 2006: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=23847&page=2
 
I have to try to add those lines to the Whdload prefs. The dude I have is if I must write ; before them, as they are on that drawer. I will try to use it when I have a moment.
 
Wait a moment...Uhmmm... woudn't AmigaAmp work the same way than Whdload if I could use those comands in the AmigaAmp preferences (I don't know if it has preferences or how it could be done)?

[Cammy]

Have you tried AmiNetRadio? I prefer to use it instead of AmigaAmp, it seems to be less of a CPU hog and doesn't skip when playing MP3s on my system like AmigaAmp does at the same quality settings. It also has lots more features, like playing internet radio stations, downloading and managing podcasts and more.

Have you configured AHI to use Paula for the audio output? There are a few different settings to try, so try each one until you find the best one for your system.

Anyway, here's AmiNetRadio - http://www.amigazeux.net/anr/
And if you skip forward towards the end of this video you can see me using it, but stupid YouTube cut the audio out of my video so you can't hear the radio stations playing, but they are - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j72NjheWP-A  (Sorry you'll have to watch this on a faster system)

[Retrofan]

Thanks. No, I haven't tried it. I thought that it was only to connect to internet radios, and I thought that with the speed the connection goes... so I haven't tried it, but I will do.
 
Thinking about changing the preferences of AmigaAmp makes no sense to disable the USB so I can play always AmigaAmp because I would loose the chance to play music from the USB stick.
 
What I have to do is or to start 1st AmigaAmp before the USB stick or to try another player like Aminet radio.

[Retrofan]

Oh, I coudn't start Youtube till now... you're the one of those videos. I've seen a couple of them and I like them very much. But weren't you playing delitracker in another?
 
And a second thing I've discovered right now: in my childhood there was a game I liked to play a lot in the Spectrum 48k although it was very simple. As the game was from a LoadNRun casette, the name wasn't the original of the game. That was years ago. This year I've found versions of it for the PlayStation 2 even, and too for the Snes with the name of Bomberman.
What I didn't know when I bought my Amiga which came with the Dynamite Pack (still haven't tried it after 3 months) is that that was the game!
 
And looking it well... I thought your Avatar was a draw, but for the video... is it a real photo? Of whom if I can ask you?
 
EDIT: Well, I've seen your photo gallery and now I have the answer...

[Retrofan]

Hi:
I've noticed the problem isn't only with AmigaAmp. I've tried Aminet Radio, Hippo Player and Eagle Player (I think I coudn't before because I didn't have guigfx.library, at least for Aminet Radio). The message I get with all of them is "COULD NOT ALLOCATE AUDIO CHANNELS" (yes, Aminet Radio worked right before that). I'm sure it's because what @PanterHZ said and something -AHI or all the players- search for a Sound Card, but only when the USB stick is attached and it must confuse it with a sound card and doesn't find the audio channels.
 
The only solution I found would be to find a way in which the USB was diferenciated, but why there's no problem if I open the player before?
 
So it has to be the same for all the people that has a Subway USB controller and insert the USB stick before opening any player.
I talked with Lauri and asked to try the same with his Amiga (he's got Subway too) and Amiga Amp and he got the same problem.
 
Is it possible NOBODY has tried before me to put an usb stick and open any player? I've searched and searched and have found nobody talking about it.
 
Please, SOMEONE WHO HAS A SUBWAY (there must be at least a couple): what player do you use and can you use it if you put a USB stick before opening the player?
 
Thanks in advance

[kolla]

Another guess from me - poseidon has this habit of playing sounds when devices is inserted/removed - maybe it holds the audio device. There's a setting somewhere to turn that off.

[Retrofan]

How knows? I'll try it

[Retrofan]

I've been trying with Trident to find a way to disable that sound, but I didn't find a way, but.... I've changed something. Not sure what it was Perhaps that Trident was saying it didn't find a TCP/IP (although I had Genesis and the Wifi pcmcia attached) and later don't know how I got it without that messages...
 
The thing is that now when I put the USB, the sound of USB attached plays, but I get no message on the screen (before I had one of USB found or similar), and if I open now whatever player it works. If I leave the USB pendrive attached when I turn on the Amiga, I get the AHI request when I open the player, but not if I boot the amiga, then put the USB stick and then open the player (or if I open the player and then put the stick).
 
Now it's a completely reasonable behaviour.
 
So the question is solved (I would like to give a good explanation of how it was solved, but I can't).  Thanks everybody for the help!