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Offline TensionTopic starter

3.9 on A3000
« on: January 18, 2010, 10:30:58 PM »
I`m trying to install 3.9 on my A3000.

When i make the emergency disk, it wont boot.

Seems to guru when Setpatch loads.

Replaced the setpatch with the one off WB3.1 disks. This seems to have cured the Setpatch problem.

When i try to install 3.9, it seems to only copy some of the files.  Plus i'm getting checksum errors all over the place.  Reformatting helps for a while, but they come back.

This all happens pretty randomly...  Sometimes i get a requester saying that "df0" has crashed!?!?

Please help this randomness is driving me mad!!

Offline tone007

3.9 on A3000
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 10:41:31 PM »
I'd check the RAM.
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Offline TensionTopic starter

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 11:31:12 PM »
Reseated the chips & ZIPs the other day but it didn't seem to make any difference.

Will the 3000 still work if I just take them all out??

Offline Matt_H

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 12:39:00 AM »
Quote from: Tension;538991
Reseated the chips & ZIPs the other day but it didn't seem to make any difference.

Will the 3000 still work if I just take them all out??


No RAM? Definitely won't work.
 

Offline tone007

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 12:47:45 AM »
Running a ramtest might be a good idea.  Also, you could try just installing one fastram bank at a time (and if it screws up on the first bank, swap those chips for another 8.)

The issue I had was mixed static column and fast page chips.  My solution was making sure the first chip in the first bank was FPM, so the 3000 treated them all as FPM and not SC.  SC can pretend to be FPM, but FPM can't act like SC.

edit: checking the first ZIP chip in the first bank shouldn't be too tough, my FPMs had 400 in the number while the SCs were 402's (lucky me, there are weirder part numbers around.)
« Last Edit: January 19, 2010, 12:51:37 AM by tone007 »
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Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 01:32:15 AM »
also check maxtransfer value... if you used the new partitioning software with OS 3.9 it might have changed the value to something your scsi hard drive is not happy with.

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Offline TensionTopic starter

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2010, 02:18:33 AM »
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No RAM? Definitely won't work.


What I meant was, can I remove all FAST memory, leaving just CHIP ZIPs and then just buy a Zorro RAM card instead.


Would the Zorro card pereform better than the ZIPs??

Offline TensionTopic starter

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2010, 02:19:11 AM »
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also check maxtransfer value... if you used the new partitioning software with OS 3.9 it might have changed the value to something your scsi hard drive is not happy with.

Az


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Offline Matt_H

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2010, 03:10:55 AM »
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What I meant was, can I remove all FAST memory, leaving just CHIP ZIPs and then just buy a Zorro RAM card instead.

Would the Zorro card pereform better than the ZIPs??


Ah, okay. A Zorro II RAM card will be significantly slower and limited to 8MB (and less with other cards installed). A super-rare Zorro III RAM card should perform nicely, but your best bet if you're removing motherboard RAM is to get an accelerator with RAM slots.
 

Offline TensionTopic starter

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2010, 03:13:57 AM »
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Ah, okay. A Zorro II RAM card will be significantly slower and limited to 8MB (and less with other cards installed). A super-rare Zorro III RAM card should perform nicely, but your best bet if you're removing motherboard RAM is to get an accelerator with RAM slots.


Bugger, can't afford to go splashing out on kit anyway.  Better just make do I suppose!!

Offline Gulliver

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 05:25:53 AM »
Do as suggested already, check your memory first with memtest. Avoid taking the zip chips, this should be your last resort if everything else fails to detect the problem.
Anyway, it seems as fastmem is failing.
 

Offline Jope

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 06:11:25 AM »
Quote from: Matt_H;539004
No RAM? Definitely won't work.

Chip RAM will be there, it is on a separate part of the board in DIP casing. Unless the machine is an A3000T.

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Not so black. Leave it as it is for SCSI, 0x1fe00 for IDE/CF.
 

Offline TensionTopic starter

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2010, 12:25:04 PM »
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Not so black. Leave it as it is for SCSI, 0x1fe00 for IDE/CF.[/QUOTE



Haven't touched the MaxTransfer values.  Tried installing/partitioning with different versions of HDToolBox but they still keep messing up after a few reboots.

Offline mousehouse

Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2010, 08:05:52 AM »
There is a Fastlane available on Amibay with 64MB...

http://amibay.com/showthread.php?t=3874

I've seen quite a few of them go by the last months...
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Re: 3.9 on A3000
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2010, 10:11:16 AM »
The ZIP chips are delicate - better just pull one of the ZIPs per bank, that should take care of deactivating that bank as well.