Calling all Emulators: WinUAE 1.3.3 WIP just released

[keropi]

an emulated cpu is the same as a real one. it is all "digital"
emulated gfx/sound (and especially sound) never reaches 100% as far as I am concerned.

[Crumb]

@Piru

as you know the AGA chipset very well maybe you could give us additional information, but I think that you would need to open a 1280 screen for AGA games to reach smooth "quarter-pixel" scrolling (like the one used in the game Atrophy). I don't know how well it's emulated ATM.

[Tomas]

I think keropi said was that PCI would mean hardware. But I must say that if the Amiga hardware is emulated perfectly by software, it will be just a matter of CPU power to get to the real thing...

It does not matter much when it runs ontop of a OS that randomly keeps stealing system resources. The only way to get it emulated perfectly, is to have dedicated chips to do the job.

[itix]

If AGA display was emulated on PCI card you would need another monitor to display it. On the other hand nobody guarantees that AGA emulation on PCI card would be perfect.

[Hammer]

It does not matter much when it runs ontop of a OS that randomly keeps stealing system resources. The only way to get it emulated perfectly, is to have dedicated chips to do the job.

Run it on a dual core PCs.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Not with UAE. The hw emulation is too tightly integrated to be possible to offload to some PCI card.

And it's quite pointless anyway, any 5 year old PC can emulate the chipset faster than some PCI card...

Why?
One can perfectly make a pci card with it's own chipset/processor, with a pass-through vga adapter with overlay gfx (like old 3dfx cards, or dvd decoder cards), plus a floppy adapter and joyports. The only thing the PCI bus needs to do is controlling the card :-)

Maybe a job for those guys who make the mini amiga? :-)

[Piru]

@Speelgoedmannetje

with a pass-through vga adapter with overlay gfx (like old 3dfx cards, or dvd decoder cards)

With todays high frequencies that wouldn't be too easy, and it would also need to support DVI.

Why?

It wouldn't have anything to do with UAE.

[Damion]

Honestly, I really don't see the point... UAE isn't close to perfect yet, but I've run a few demos lately back to back with the "real thing" and some of them are emulated almost flawlessly. Running a clone chipset on a PCI card, with configurable video resolutions/filters and whatnot would be a total mess to get working properly IMHO (not to mention a UAE plugin feature)...

[Speelgoedmannetje]

With todays high frequencies that wouldn't be too easy, and it would also need to support DVI.

High frequencies? :-?
DVI, okay, I understand that that's quite a difficulty. Though I cannot remember any refresh rate/resolution problem using my voodoo2; while using quite high resolutions (wich were not accelerated by the 3dfx) like 1280x1024@75Hz.

But think of it, a 'standalone' amiga with vga/rgb/s-video out, with an A500/a1200 switch, an usb connection (with a pc program like lemonade, and a function to switch adf's with a touch of a button).. How cool would that be?  8-)