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Re: Open Amiga - Defining the Standards
« Reply #59 from previous page: June 13, 2003, 02:39:05 AM »
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You asked if somebody could "Ask Fleecy"... doesn't mean that gary_C has an excuse to go off on one and generalise about the people who frequent amigaworld.net.

Well, mdma was also interested in the general reaction at amigaworld.net and since I had already posted there in a short thread about openamiga, I decided to write up a little summary of the opinions in that thread.

I don't think my generalization was wrong actually, and as a qualifier I pointed out that it was based on a small sample, but it was wrong to express the opinion in this thread if it gets people off-topic and upset. Sorry about that.

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Re: Open Amiga - Defining the Standards
« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2003, 09:19:39 AM »
See Mike Bouma's comments on osnews.com for an idea of why i don't even read amigaworld.net let alone post news to it. :-(
 

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Re: Open Amiga - Defining the Standards
« Reply #61 on: June 13, 2003, 09:46:23 AM »
http://openamiga.org/

openamiga.org is now active, please update your bookmarks! ;-)

More input from coders would be nice too! :-D
 

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Re: Open Amiga - Defining the Standards
« Reply #62 on: June 13, 2003, 05:31:11 PM »
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I don't see open standards as a thread to our existence (in fact I was attacked on this very site and on ANN for promoting the adoption of XML as an open standard).


I don't know if you've done it on purpose or just misread what was written at that time, but THAT is not what has happened.

I have questioned the decision to use XML for preference files, and I've explained in great detail why, and YOU attacked me in response.

The "open standard" was never an issue, neither was the reason of the disagreement.
 

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Re: Open Amiga - Defining the Standards
« Reply #63 on: June 13, 2003, 07:47:55 PM »
I  had a thought last night (must be that time of year :-) ).  Would it be possible to have an OpenAmiga system in a similar way to ixemul and ixnet? Like an OpenAmiga library that developers can use to ensure interoperability, and that will allow the standard to evolve, and also allow AmigaOSiods (love that word :lol: ) to evolve in all thier different directions without having to worry about the AmigaOpen standard within the OS itself?

Or am I just off on a wild daydream? ;-)
 

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Re: Open Amiga - Defining the Standards
« Reply #64 on: June 13, 2003, 09:46:44 PM »
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Like an OpenAmiga library that developers can use to ensure interoperability, and that will allow the standard to evolve, and also allow AmigaOSiods (love that word  ) to evolve in all thier different directions without having to worry about the AmigaOpen standard within the OS itself?


Well that is exactly what we are doing, only we can't have one library for obvious reasons, so the functionality of the Open standard is divided up inot separate libraries... namely: cgx, ahi, mui, bsd socket... etc...
ixemul is an API of very limited scope... it is sort of analogous to amigas exec.library in a way... you see? It doesn't cover gfx or audio and stuff they need spearate standard libraries.

Basicly you have got the idea in one, but we can't rally have a massive single monolithic library to do it, that is not the amiga way  :-D

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Re: Open Amiga - Defining the Standards
« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2003, 09:47:11 PM »
I am making an assumption here, which is that your idea of openamiga is simply to create a set of programming standards to ensure software is easily portable between various Amiga style OS's.

It's a good idea, and if you can get some quality developers to join your effort, it should be quite successful.

As far a trademarks, copyright etc go, you don't seem to be doing anything wrong.  You are simply creating guidelines and community produced code that will ensure that applications created using them are compatible with certain operating systems.

As long as no actual OS code or OS literature is included in each persons final product there can be no legal consequences from Amiga.

As for using the name Amiga in Openamiga - It would be an incredibly tough sell to convince a judge that this was trademark infringement.  The only way they could do it is if they could produce a convincing argument stating that by using the name Openamiga, people could in some way be fooled into thinking your product was in some way officially linked with them.

Also you would have an enormous number of precedents to show that what you have done is both normal and legal - for instance 99% of Amiga magazines used the word Amiga in their titles.

Anway IMHO this is a sound idea, good luck with your venture..
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Re: Open Amiga - Defining the Standards
« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2003, 09:56:31 PM »
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I am making an assumption here, which is that your idea of openamiga is simply to create a set of programming standards to ensure software is easily portable between various Amiga style OS's.


That is exactly it.

As for copyrighted material, the Openamiga referance platform is totally Opensource. Thus not a single peice of protected IP is required to forefill the platform requirements.  :-)

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Re: Open Amiga - Defining the Standards
« Reply #67 on: June 14, 2003, 10:55:47 PM »
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As for copyrighted material, the Openamiga referance platform is totally Opensource.


The headers for the AmigaOS API's on our SDK CD will be from AROS anyhow. :-D