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Offline meerschaum

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Re: Ben Hermans - Hyperion Entertainment Interviewed
« Reply #74 from previous page: May 22, 2003, 12:08:28 AM »
whoever said video game porting companys wherent the best people for the job of making a new OS???....
 

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Re: Ben Hermans - Hyperion Entertainment Interviewed
« Reply #75 on: May 22, 2003, 05:59:56 AM »
With all due respect to Rob Peck et al, authors of the RKM, it is a lot easier to port something using original source code (in almost any programming language) than it is from verbal explanations of how it is supposed to behave or reverse engineering a disassembly from a decidedly different CPU.

Commented original source code is even better.
 

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Re: Ben Hermans - Hyperion Entertainment Interviewed
« Reply #76 on: May 23, 2003, 12:39:28 AM »
>Steffen may have harped about ELF prior to joining to >Hyperion but this was never the official line.

I am using a compiler using ELF as my favourite
compiler since the Heretic II port (which was how many years ago ?). At that time back then I was given reasons
by Jochen Becher (who was really NOT liking ELF) why ELF would be an extremely bad idea. And as I was very
impressed with his other work I believed him up to it at that time :) I still remember that I had discussions with Jochen about that issue at a later time.

It should be known that since many years I am very pro the gcc-WarpUP compiler and am recommending it to
all people who ask which compiler they should use on AmigaOS. And this compiler internally uses ELF (even though the files will be converted to hunk format after linking...)

I find it interesting that certain people bring this up again and again (maybe else they run out of arguments ? :) ),
while they never for example bring up that at one point
one of the (now) MOS-inventors was argueing that the Amiga Shared Library format should be given up and replaced by
a different API (Sorry I cannot come up with cites of news-posts like the certain people...). They could throw this back at the guy always also that he said that
back then !!! :) But for SOME reason they don't do THIS.

It has also to be noted that "at that time back" the integration of ELF (having to start patches in the startup-sequence) into AmigaOS was NOT as it should have been done. Also from a developer's sight (early ppc.library versions) it was a different API from what
developers were used to. When I was against ELF those
years ago this always played a role, that I was not particularly impressed by the OS-integration of it in ppc.library.

Steffen