Why do ST fanboys say ST has better sound ?

[klx300r]

@ amigaski

nothing that I've heard sounds like the SID chip..you can 'upgrade' (as you call it) any Atari all you want and you still wont get the sound a 6581R4 SID can come up with :inquisitive:

[marcfrick2112]

I'd say that the Amiga does have better sound, but the Atari ST could be sound pretty good. Of course, the ST (and even the C-64 for that matter) were able to do sampled sound. I had a chance to compare a 1040ST and an Amiga 500, side by side when I was a senior in High School, maybe '87 ? I was impressed with Starglider on the ST, the theme song had sampled vocals...
Of course, some time later, I heard the same thing on the Amiga from Aladdin, and countless MODs, etc.
 
Why, oh why wasn't Paula upgraded for AGA

[amigaksi]

by marcfrick2112 on 2009/4/21 23:32:26

>I'd say that the Amiga does have better sound, but the >Atari ST could be sound pretty good. Of course, the ST (and even the C-64 for that matter) were able to do sampled sound. I had a chance to compare a 1040ST and an Amiga 500, side by side when I was a senior in High School, maybe '87 ? I was impressed with Starglider on the ST, the theme song had sampled vocals...
>Of course, some time later, I heard the same thing on the Amiga from Aladdin, and countless MODs, etc.

I would say Amiga has the better sound as well.  Atari ST, C64 and Atari 800 all have 4-bit DACs whereas Amiga has 4 8-bit DACs and with volume modulation on top you can simulate higher bit depth.

>Why, oh why wasn't Paula upgraded for AGA

You mean with 16-bit DACs; I thought they made some plug-in board that supported 16-bit audio.  For me, 16-bit is overkill.  10-bits fits most needs especially if you have a good sampling hardware that normalizes the audio so that when you record 8-bit you don't get range of -50..50 instead of -128..127.

[amigaksi]

by klx300r on 2009/4/21 21:35:32

>@ amigaski

>nothing that I've heard sounds like the SID chip..you can 'upgrade' (as you call it) any Atari all you want and you still wont get the sound a 6581R4 SID can come up with  

Some people say the same for their particular machines.  But looking at it objectively, Atari 8-bit can play it's 4 DACs at 68Khz using all the CPU power (1.79Mhz).  SID has more built-in hardware for musical notes generation.  I would say the sampled audio favors the Atari over C64 assuming you play same sampled audio on both machines.  Sometimes, some music is better than an another (which has nothing to do with the hardware but a better musician).