4000D Two Hard Drives

[don27dog]

I am running out of room on my 4000D Hard Drive. I scraped an old PC and grabed an 80 Gig IDE drive. I wanted to remove the Cd-Rom and set the new HD as slave and partition it using HDToolbox from os3.9 on the orginal drive. My plan was to then copy my files from the old Hd to the new partitions but when I connect the new drive it isn't being seen. I can remove the orginal HD and and set the new drive as master and it shows just fine on HDtoolbox on the 3.1 install disk. I would rather not install from scratch if possible but right now it looks like my only option.  Any other ideas ?

[don27dog]

Any ideas?

[RMK305]

Could you not partition and format it from scratch with it being the master but not install the OS. Then try making the original HD the slave so they are both connected up and load the OS from floppy and then copy the contents over if it recognised them swapped around?

Does that even make sense when you read it back?  :lol:

[A4000_Mad]

RMK305 wrote:
Does that even make sense when you read it back?  :lol:

I was with you right up until you said the word "Could"  :lol:

@ don27dog

Your plan should work but I've not messed with drives as big as 80 Gig in the Amiga myself yet.

[RMK305]

 :lol:  I tried.

[Nostalgiac]

I've not managed to fill my 2gb drive *ever* (ok... I'm not much of a gamer) so I cannot imagine why anyone would want an 80gb  :-D

ta
Tom UK

[B00tDisk]

Nostalgiac wrote:
I've not managed to fill my 2gb drive *ever* (ok... I'm not much of a gamer) so I cannot imagine why anyone would want an 80gb  :-D

ta
Tom UK

There's more to life than WHDload images of trackloader games  :lol:

[Darrin]

Are you using the internal IDE connector on the motherboard?

I had all sorts of problems using IDE Fix to get 2 drives working off that.  I gave up in the end and purchased a Zorro III Flyer 4000 from AmigaKit and never looked back.  I've currently got 2 80GB hard drives attached to it (partitioned as 2 x 40 and 1 x 4, 1 x 40, 1 x 36) and a CD ROM drive (leaving a connector spare).  I have a CF card attached to the Internal IDE header for use in an emergency or if I want to make a different OS install.

Anyway, the easy way to do it is to attach 1 small drive.  Make a small 2GB system partition and install OS3.1.  Then install OS3.9 as the toolbox works a hell of a lot better.  Find the Smart File System and install that.  Attach the 2nd 80GB drive and partition it using 3.9's toolbox how you like it (say 2 x 40) using SFS, quick format the partitions and copy your 2GB install onto a 40GB partition that is set to boot first (Toolbox will allow you to change the boot priorities of your drives without wiping them).

Remove the small drive if you like and store it in a safe place incase your 80GB drive folds.

I tend to use one of my large partitions as a "backup" and just copy the whole System drive onto it.  If I install something the messes with the OS then I just use DOPUS to copy the backup onto the System drive again.

[banzai]

I swear, you folks are making this more complicated than you should.

Follow:

Big drive works when hooked up and set as master
Big drive isn't seen when hooked up and set as slave

Conclusion:

The ONLY thing that's changed is the inclusion of the ORIGINAL (small) drive. Therefore, that's where the problem lies...

If this is the original Seagate ST-3140A drive (or most older Seagate and Western Digitals), then you must add the "Slave Present" jumper to let the master drive know there's a -get this- "Slave Present".

Another bug-a-boo is the WD drives like to be set as:
 > No Jumper = master (single drive)
 > MST jump = master (slave present)
 > SLV jump = slave

Lastly, it could be you have them set as Cable Select (CS or CSEL) when you don't have the right cable. If the cable you're using has has "Master/Drive 0" or "Slave/Drive 1" printed next to the connectors, then you most likely have one. If not, set the jumpers properly on BOTH drives.

This computer service announcement has been brought to you by the "Get a Jump on Jumpers" council.

banzai

P.S. If you could please post the models of HDs that you're using, it would help us find the correct settings for you. Once we can see the drive(s), then we can worry about getting them formatted >4GB, as mentioned above...

[don27dog]

Sorry for the delay. I was out of town for a funeral since yesterday afternoon. I am trying to use built in ide controler on the 4000 motherboard. It works fine with orginal HD set as master and Cd-rom set as slave. The orginal full drive is Seagate Medalist 4321 and the jumper is set as Master (closest to the ide pins) The HD I pulled from the PC is Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8. It is a 40GB drive instead of 80 but that doesn't really matter at this point. I have it set with no jumper for slave. I would really like to get it to recoginize both drives so I could format the Maxtor with 3.9. I want to make two 2gig partitions to use for OS then break the remaining space into as many 4 gig partitions as I can.

I have backed up the contents of the orginal HD to my PC with Amiga explorer and also backed them up on a jump drive. Unless some one has a better idea I think I will just pull the Segate out on the computer, format the Maxtor with 3.1, Install 3.1, then install 3.9 and reformat the way I would like, then reinstall 3.1 get my deneb up and running, then copy my orginal files to the new drive.  Ideas?

[krize]

Juast install it all on winuae, then transfer to the Amiga.. No need for any floppies etc..