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A4000 CPU slot issue
« on: June 05, 2008, 03:23:36 PM »
Hi!

I had to change my motherboard with a new one. My problem is that the CPU slot is a bit tilted so that my CPU board is no longer parallel to the motherboard. My CPU board is a CSPPC with a CVPPC. If no other pressure is made to the board is it OK that it is only supported by the slot, or will it damage the board over time? Do I really need to get yet another motherboard? An other issue this poses is that I need to set my harddrive in the top position because of the CVPPC is in the way.
 

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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2008, 03:50:16 PM »
I have an A3000 with a WarpEngine CPU card.
I found that if the card is not secured to the posts,
over time the heating and cooling of the boards causes
contact with the slot to become spotty and have to re-seat
the card (not a fun job with the A3k).
So I secured the card to the posts and 'NO'problems since.
I would think your A4k would suffer from the same problem.

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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 03:50:30 PM »
Hi :)


Do you still have the old mainboard?
As you should have some plastic spacer's there. (plastikkbein) who support your SCPPC. just take them out and insert them in the new mainboard.

If you don't have any, you can custom some old pc plastic spacers..but they are rare too.
But anything would work. just don't add any who short your SCPPC or mainboard.

Anyway you need to have something too support the SCPPC board. as it heavy. And at the end you will Get bad connection between CPU slot and SCPPC.

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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2008, 04:05:04 PM »
I use the old plastic spacers. It's just that the CSPPC is not in parallel to the new motherboard and I can't force the CSPPC down so that it is parallel without damaging things. It is the slot on the motherboard that's tilted so that it is not possible to secure the CSPPC.

Edit:
Here are some pictures I hope helps illustrate my problem.
http://uib.no/people/fcirm/csppc/
 

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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2008, 05:06:59 PM »
Hi.

Dam, I did think it was angle the other way. down. but your is going up. This is the first time I have seen that.

I'm not sure. what too do.. I would not force any thing on the CSPPC!!! too expensive!!!.

 
If you take out the motherboard and see if any can be done with that cpu slot?

Hmm I wonder if the CPU slot have been in this state from the factory, or someone have replaced it..or pushed it in this state.

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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2008, 05:19:45 PM »
The motherboard doesn't look tampered with at all. I would say it is in mint condition besides my problem. This is a non-issue with an A3630.

I moved the spacers closest to the slot for at least some support. I will never put in a secondary harddrive so I can live with it being at the top.

 

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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2008, 06:10:16 PM »
"My CPU board is a CSPPC with a CVPPC. If no other pressure is made to the board is it OK that it is only supported by the slot, or will it damage the board over time?"

you can bet on with the CSPPC PCB so bent!

Take out the mobo again and try to alling the mobo/CSPPC the better you can (it sound weird thats the CPU slot beeing bent)

 

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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2008, 06:28:20 PM »
Wouldn't it be easier to customise some spacers? Just get some longer plastic cylinders, and shave some off the end until you get the length right (you can angle the end so that the support is more secure using sandpaper). Use long 3mm bolts and nuts through the CSPPC > cylinders > motherboard, and some rubber washers to insulate at each end.

Total cost ~£5 maximum

Seems a bit of a no-brainer compared to buying a new motherboard.

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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2008, 06:52:45 PM »
@Framiga

The CSPPC is not bent. The slot on the motherboard is tilted, not bent, seems to have been from factory this way. The CSPPC was perfectly aligned with the old motherboard. I have refitted the CSPPC several times and ensured that it is fitted correctly.
 

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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2008, 07:01:20 PM »
from the pics you posted, the CSPPC PCB is badly bent (when insterted) thats the most important thing.

With the time, you will get troubles.
 

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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2008, 05:04:52 AM »
 AFAIR, the CSPPC (and the CS mk4 too, for this matter) use different spacers than the C= original.

 Here in A.org you'll find some photos of it.
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Re: A4000 CPU slot issue
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2008, 02:44:17 PM »
I have now added some longer spacers to support the card. Because of the tilt i wont be able to use a secondary harddrive or i.e a G-Rex :/

@Framiga

What troubles would I experience other than what Melott experienced?


@rkauer

I seem to remember that the original C= spacers that came with the desktop A4000/040 is ok, but there were some troubles with those that came with the tower model from Escom being too long ,though it seem these would be great to have now ;)