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Re: Anyone interested in buying the Commodore 128T?
« Reply #44 from previous page: May 29, 2008, 06:24:36 PM »
Bout that Lupo, VW/Audi had 2 "3-Litre"-cars back than (the other being the A2 with the same 1.2L TDI), but prices were so insane (you could easily buy a car 2 classes bigger with loads of extras for the same money), that they sold miserably and were canceled after a few years.

The only 3-Litre car you can still buy new today is the Smart-4Two-CDI, but that really a 3.49-Litre car and also costs your 1st-born (no problem as you won't have place for any kids anyway)  :crazy:

I'll rather stick to my solution, only drive 6000km (or even less) a year with your own car ...... :-P
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Re: Anyone interested in buying the Commodore 128T?
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2008, 07:47:49 PM »
@taunusand: Every second year isn't that bad. My car is registered in New York, which requires an inspection every year (at the vehicle owner's expense, of course), and if you don't pass you can't legally use the car until it is repaired.

As far as a trunk goes, well, if you need one, you need one. Personally, I can do without it, and would be more than happy to lose the extra weight it adds to the rear end of the car, both for efficiency, and performance. :)

@Kronos: if a car costs twice as much to buy, and half as much to go a mile or kilometer, it's only a matter of time before it pays for itself. I drove 30,000 miles this last year (granted, I did move across the US in it, but that's only a tenth of the driving I did)... hmm, at $3.50 a gallon on average (probably a low estimate), those miles cost me about $3500. Now, my car cost me $5500 (used). so total cost, neglecting maintenance that any car would need, was $9000. If I was getting 75 mpg instead of ~30, the gas cost would drop to $1400. So I could have spent $7600 on a more efficient car, and broken even after the first year. If I own my car 5 years, and gas averages $5 over that time period (which it will, I expect), then assuming I put 150,000 miles on it I will have spent $25000 on gas alone. If I had that 75mpg car, the gas would be $10000. I'd much rather have spent $20000 on the car, and $10000 on gas, than $5000 on the car, and $25000 on gas! Unfortunately, I could not buy a vehicle that efficient here in the US, because the only one sold here that was that good was the Honda Insight, which was taken out of production about a week before I called the dealership to order one. That car was, IIRC, about $18000-20000 new, so I would have broken even, dumped far fewer carbon compounds into the water and air, and been able to drive around town even when temporarily broke, as happens from time to time.

(sorry for the continued off-topic posting, but the lack of efficient cars here is driving me up the wall...)
 

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Re: Anyone interested in buying the Commodore 128T?
« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2008, 11:16:25 AM »
@pkillo
Okay  :-o
I'm surprised to hear that! I thought Denmark was one of the few countries that had car inspection. I know that there are other countries that don't require that.. Until 1998 we only had to have our car inspectet, if we bought one that had not been inspected for the past year.

There are different kind of "needs" for a car, i often have to transport different kind af goods with my car, I also need to have a every day car that I will not worry if it gets a little dent of scratch.
But I agree, most people just need a car for transport from A to B, and I also agree that it should be an economic car, to save the gas and save the enviroment.
I bought that old '87 Golf because it was cheap to buy, cheap to buy spare parts for and more economic than most cars in DK. But still.. Most people overhere spend over 100.000kr (about 21.000USD) to buy a car. The tax for a new car over here are over the double of the car value. My boss spend about 200.000USD to buy one of thoose "big" Audi's!
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Re: Anyone interested in buying the Commodore 128T?
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2008, 09:33:54 PM »
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Most people overhere spend over 100.000kr (about 21.000USD) to buy a car. The tax for a new car over here are over the double of the car value. My boss spend about 200.000USD to buy one of thoose "big" Audi's!


Damn, that is a LOT of money, and a heck of a tax rate! Here in the US, we just pay the regular sales tax rate when buying a car - it's usually never more than 10%, depending on where you live...
 

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Re: Anyone interested in buying the Commodore 128T?
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2008, 09:42:23 PM »
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The economy is grim, if the worst case scenario happens I can't use classic computers living in a cardboard box.    
My point is/was, that selling your beloved classic computer(s) won't keep you alive much longer, so to say. Especially not when the economy is grim.
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Re: Anyone interested in buying the Commodore 128T?
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2008, 10:23:12 PM »
@pkillo
Yes, that is a lot of money, I will newer buy a new car. I feel that I pay enougt tax through diesel/gasoline.
There are also registration tax, part of the insurance are tax, and so on. Even if I buy oil, a battery or some other car products, there are tax. 42% of my pay are tax.
After all thoose taxes, I begin to wonder what danish kroner (DKR) are worth...
Anyway, I don't feel poor or rich, I live well.
The reason that I began to argue about the gas price was that you should know that "I don't think that you have fewer money than I do" ;-)

We both have good things and bad things. I don't know.. Would you have free hospitals and then pay the double gas price?
I'm not sure what is best. You have some kind af healt insurance, or?
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Re: Anyone interested in buying the Commodore 128T?
« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2008, 12:24:56 AM »
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We both have good things and bad things. I don't know.. Would you have free hospitals and then pay the double gas price?
I'm not sure what is best. You have some kind af healt insurance, or?


I would gladly pay US$5 per _litre_ of gas if I my fiancee and I didn't have to spend and average of  US$800 a month on health expenses. (That's more than our rent and utility payments.) She has insurance through her employer but it pays for nothing, and I have no insurance through my employer because I work for a small software firm, and it's literally impossible to purchase a health insurance plan here if you don't have a group of 25 people (50 for the better plans that would actually cover my medical expenses).  So far this year, I am out of pocket over $5000 on medical bills, copays, and premiums.

I pay $300 a month just for the premiums on my insurance, which I'm luck to have. (I'm insured under the Oregon Medical Insurance Pool, which is basically a cooperative sponsored by the state government.) Most people in the US have no insurance, or will have no insurance starting the moment they need it to pay for something bigger than a check-up. The insurance companies just decide you're 'uninsurable' and laugh all the way to the bank while you suffer and/or die, and the pharmaceutical companies are screwing us, too. I take one medication that costs $40 _per dose_.

If you get health care for free, or even a reasonable rate (whether they call it taxes or something else), you are really lucky. I can't wait until I move to Canada at the end of the summer. Yippee!


 

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Re: Anyone interested in buying the Commodore 128T?
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2008, 08:53:26 AM »
@pkillo
Wow, that's just too much!! I feel luckey, I have not needed a doctor or a hospital in several years. Except for a dentist, wich I have to pay for myself. Dentists do overcharge here, about 1000kr / 200USD just for pulling out two of my teeth.. That's under 15 minutes of work!! I spend about 1400kr / 300USD on a filling, just under 30minutes of work. I have an insurance that covers about half of the dentist bill, but still.. Overcharge!! The same in the US, just worse, I can see that doctors/hospitals really overcharge.
In my opinion, life saving healt care / surgery should be payed over the taxes. It is human lives we are talking about!
But I don't know what the tax rates are in the US.
We have to pay most of our medicine ourselves, medicine are wery expensive, that is the same as for you.

Still, 800USD are the same as some pay for health expenses here in DK. It is ONLY the hospitals that are free.
Medicine, dentists and so on, we still have to pay for
My mom had cancer (no worry, that is years ago, after surgery she is okay) she was fired because of she was sick. My dad died several years ago and my brother and I was about 7 abd 12 years back then. Low income, rent, two kids and so on, and medicine she had to pay herself. I have been a part of wery bad financial times myself, I have nothing to complaĆ­n about now, but it is absolutly not funny :-(
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Re: Anyone interested in buying the Commodore 128T?
« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2008, 11:13:46 AM »
>I would gladly pay US$5 per _litre_ of gas if I my fiancee and I didn't have to spend and average of US$800 a month on health expenses. (That's more than our rent and utility payments.)...

In certain cases, it's better to let the body heal itself of the disease entirely rather than fill up a doctor's billing records with more CPTs and ICDs.  Body does try to heal itself of everything "bad" that happens to it or you do to it.  You can aid that usually with fasting on raw vegetables/fruits for a day or two-- just like shutting down certain background tasks in a computer to give more CPU time to other tasks.  

As far as gas, you can extend that principle that nature also tries to keep things at some equilibrium and all the gas useage is polluting the atmosphere so an alternative is needed and price pressures/natural disasters may help to take it in that direction.  What ever happened to the electric cars?  Even if they are not as fast, it's a step in the right direction like earlier B&W 8088 laptops.  I guess unless you desire/deserve it, it won't happen.

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