Amiga Card PPC developing

[amiga_3k]

€ 50.000,-- is quite a steal. It means you can have one person working at it for maximum 6 months. That's what he/she will cost in wages and other work-taxes. If you want something of a prototype thrown in as well, the design should be done within a month or four... by a single person!

So, that seems only doable if:
a) The person has done Amiga PPC boards in the past.
or
b) They have been working on it in their spare-time allready and are looking for a quick buck ;-).
or
c) Developing a PPC board for classic Amiga is extremely simple ;-)

Pick your option, or add to it :-D

[fishy_fiz]

I read a good chunk of this thread, but not particularly thoroughly, so I appologize if these questions are answered somewhere within it. Firstly, what exactly is the point of this "product" ? OS4 is a no-no as there would be no license. Also Im not sure wos (another contributing factor to lack of OS4 for classics) or pup are doable either in regards to new amiga ppc cards, although theyre probably a little more likely than the alternatives. MOS also seems off limits due to the fact that pup seems unlikely. Near as I can tell the best these cards could offer is yet *another* split, with a new ppc based systems for classic amigas/os3.x. I really dont see the point. Again, sorry if Ive missed something, but unless I did it appears to be just another of the increasingly common fantasy scenarios (which I admit I do understand why they appear).
In my opinion (and thats all it is) some sort of 68k card seems more practical (and doable) for classics for now. Maybe with onboard gfx and sound. 68030 or '040 based with some sort of sdram slot or 2. Some sort of modest little upgrade that wouldnt cost the earth that would make nice additions to a whdload machine, or whatever uses classics  still have for people. I didnt really give this idea a great deal of thought, but something to this effect seems a better idea to me (and actually useful, as there's no license, etc. required for os3.x hardware and it could also be useful for an eventual AROS port to 680x0).

Anyway, just a few of my thoughts, reject or not, I dont care too much  :-)

[persia]

Natami and Minimig are the hopes for Classic Amiga fans, what needs to be done is for there to be some way to actually run OS4.  I don't know if there are enough Amiga fans left for it to make a difference but right now the limiting factor is currently machines.  A functional OS4 on PPC Mac Minis would eliminate that restriction.

Do I think that Amiga OS4 will become mainstream?  No, it's far too late for that, but perhaps it can reverse the haemorrhage  of remaining users.  All Amiga needs is a few thousand users to survive into the future.

[wawrzon]

no! and once again a big NO! to anything that carries an a**le (or so*y for that matter) logo on it. run osx on mac if u will, but i will run aos on amiga related hardware or on nothing. and as i am close to comlete a really smoothly and stable running 3.9 os with all that last minute 3party enchancements on my a4ks the only thing i long for is computing speed. i suppose to assemble some sort of 68k compatible accel for a4k cpu slot might be still simpler and better off task today than reverse engineering of csppc, but as i know not much about the technics i will back off here..

[persia]

I can get a 4 or so year old 1.42 GHz  G4 Mac Mini for USD 250 to 350 (€160 to 225), you'll need more than that in research seed alone to produce a card that will go into a 25 year old machine.  I don't give a flying fig if the box has got little faeries with pink wings on it.  All I want to do is run OS4.  I can have 4 bleeding  Mac Minis for the price of one A1, if they exist at all (there's been fewer sightings of A1s than there have been of Drop bears).

Apple hardware is new, top of the line stuff.

[Jose]

There are obvious advantages to it:
1- There simply is demand for it! As insane as it might seemm
2- You can run old apps and old games alongside with newer stuff
3- You can actually get around the licenses and just get the OS4 classic version running, assuming the card comes out soon (which is probably impossible... but still, judging by how things are going with the court battle and Amiga Inc.'s complete incompetence in everything so far, chances are this is as far you'll get.
4- You'll probably be able to also run MOS on it
5- Design could build up somehow on the CyberstormPPC, assuming those are the some people that worked on it, so faster design. They also had the CyberstormG4/BlizzardG3 prototypes some time ago, but it's not known how far did those go.

[Plaz]

OS4 is a no-no as there would be no license.

Origianlly OS4 was licenced for classics with a PPC card. This thread started over discussing a new PPC addon card, not a new motherboard which is not covered by the license. However, the current lawsuit between Hyperion and Amiga Inc is an attempt by Amiga Inc to nullify that license and other legal issues with Hyperion. So get your copy classic copy of OS4 while you can if you have a PPC card to use in your Amiga.

Plaz