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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #14 from previous page: August 07, 2003, 01:01:40 AM »
Open source for vendors and the ilk NOT for free download like Linux is.
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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2003, 02:27:45 AM »
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Open source for vendors and the ilk NOT for free download like Linux is.

Where do you freely download Lindows**, "Red Hat Enterprise Linux**" and Xandros OS, **?  

Careful with any generalizations, since there are commercial Linux distros…

PS; FreeBSD can be also freely (legal) downloaded.
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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2003, 02:53:50 AM »
Even more fud from the evil company SCO: SCO Targets US Government, TiVo
An anonymous reader writes "According to SCO, if you have a TiVo set-top box, or those models of Sharp Zaurus which use Linux, someone now owes them $32, since the company wants money 'for each embedded system using Linux.' SCO also says government agencies must pay up to $699 for each copy of Linux that they use."

http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20030806S0025
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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2003, 03:00:51 AM »
Redhat enterprise is not free cause it includes commercial programs and has support... Linux in itself is still free
 

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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2003, 05:49:46 AM »
Before passing judgement on SCO, ask yourself this, "could SCO IP be embedded into the Linux kernal?"  If it is, then there is a whole new light.  However, I do believe that this should end up in court.

At the end of the day, I find myself reserving judgement for either side.  And, that's the bottom line. Because StoneCold said so!
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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2003, 05:52:03 AM »
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also says government agencies must pay up to $699 for each copy of Linux that they use."


Actually, it says $699 per single CPU computer, implying that more than 1 CPU may be 699 each!!!! Because I read about 2 weeks ago, that some high powered computers may be charged $10,000 dollars!!!!

I wonder how that affects intel's hyperthreading tech? :-)

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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2003, 09:24:27 AM »
This all hinges around the GPL - it's the first real test of it.

Caldera (who owned SCO and have since changed their name to SCO) released various flavours of Linux (I still have some of them on CD) under the GPL.  At that point they released all the code in their distributions under the GPL.

If the issues with the code do exist, then at that point they gave away the family jewels.

The issue for SCO is to prove that they (as Caldera) did not knowingly release the alleged SCO code under the GPL.  Everything else is IMO a dead issue as long as the GPL holds water in court!
 

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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2003, 09:43:24 AM »
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Redhat enterprise is not free cause it includes commercial programs and has support... Linux in itself is still free

Of course the Linux kernel and GNU ecosystem is free…
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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2003, 10:18:43 AM »
@Targhan

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Before passing judgement on SCO, ask yourself this, "could SCO IP be embedded into the Linux kernal?"


It's not as simple as that. If there is any "SCO IP" in the Linux kernel, it needs to be established if SCO really own that IP and who put it there.

Let's remember that SCO used to be Caldera, and they had their own Linux distros for many years. If Caldera knowingly released what SCO claim to be their IP under the GPL, then the argument changes once again.

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If it is, then there is a whole new light. However, I do believe that this should end up in court.


Yes, as long as it's done quickly. The point is that SCO do not want it to get resolved quickly because it suits them better to take advantage of the uncertainty they have caused. Essentially, it's FUD.

My own judgement is not "reserved". It's not set in stone, but at any given time my judgement is based on the facts available to me. Since I have seen no proof of SCO's claim, I choose not to believe them.

Remember that Caldera/SCO is a failing company, run by incompetent management. They found they could not have a competitive product so they have decided to set fire to their own house and try to claim the insurance.
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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2003, 10:27:04 AM »
@bhoggett:

Excactly.

They released code under GPL, it's a bit late to come back and say "we didn't read the license" now.
 

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Re: the greed amazes me: SCO Wants $699 for Linux Systems
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2003, 05:37:44 AM »
Is "lawyer" the only job on the planet with tenure and security?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32229.html

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