FS A3640 - You know you need an '040!!!

[A6000]

One of these has just sold on uk.ebay for £26.00 which seems reasonable.

[gdanko]

Please preface eBay posts with FA instead of FS. There are a number of us who want nothing to do with eBay and it's a waste of our time to click a FS post and see it's just eBay.

[sprocket]

FS is accurate for fixed price sales or best offer sales.

If ebay is the issue perhaps the admins should add a new category for ebay in addition to marketplace.

[gdanko]

sprocket wrote:
FS is accurate for fixed price sales or best offer sales.

If ebay is the issue perhaps the admins should add a new category for ebay in addition to marketplace.

And $150 is fair for a 3640. I paid less for a Phase5 CyberStorm MkII.

[sprocket]

fair is what market brings.

...and I'll repeat, FS OR best offer.  Asking price is rarely what's expected when someone adds "best offer".

geeez...

(don't want anything to do with ebay but you obviously followed the link to see what it was.)

; )

[gdanko]

No I did not. I read the thread.
Fair market is not what the market brings. Case in point, the southern California housing market. An 800 square foot condo conversion is NOT worth $1 million.

sprocket wrote:

I'm consistently amused at how many on here think telling a seller what something is worth will get them to give it away.

Well said!

A6000 wrote:
One of these has just sold on uk.ebay for £26.00 which seems reasonable.

Ya right... found in a trashcan... worked 5 minutes...

Smelled dog food...or dog berries...

Or just plain luck...

The other interesting thing with european buyers is they always ask for a cheaper shipping... even if you've already offered the cheapest available shipping method...

[sprocket]

Fair market is not what the market brings.

then what standard does establish market value if not the market?

new price?
50% of new or wholesale?
50% minus 5% a year since it was new?

Since it's been 10+ years since most of this stuff was made it should all be worthless but there's loads of folks who still seem to want specific pieces of hardware.  Given there are very few current manufacturers of hardware for Amigas it's a fixed supply.

New prices typically are a bit more than double what it cost the company to make it.  Resale prices are generally arbitrary and are driven by demand.  

I had an offer of $80 for the card in question by someone who subsequently got one from another source.  I accepted his apology for offering while taking the other offer and declined his offer.  Having said that, $80 is more than those on here seemed to think it was worth and like most things on ebay or for sale anywhere you can find examples of sales for very little or maybe even a bit more than you'd expect.  If someone has a need for something value becomes fluid and the worth of an item in good condition is anyone's guess.

[alexh]

The fact you aint sold it yet is argument enough ;-)

[sprocket]

The fact you aint sold it yet is argument enough

heh...

(Must be nice to feel validation so easily.)

if selling an item within a 3 day listing is the test then you'd have to say 90% aren't priced or listed correctly.

20-30% of items I've listed didn't sell the first time I listed them or placed ads elsewhere.

Just giving people a chance to look at something doesn't mean they need it or that the right person sees it.

My usual method is to attempt relisting and if an item still doesn't sell to combine it with other items (i.e. install it in a machine to raise it's value, etc.)

Buying used equipment requires research and knowing what you want and what you're willing to pay.  Selling requires finding the right person who wants what you have.  It has nothing to do with the myriad of folks willing to kibbutz about what they think about your item, who have no intention of bidding, offering or buying.

[countzero]

do you think it's really worth it ? I mean why the hassle to squeeze every penny possible ? If you just put it on sale here for $70, somebody would have grabbed it by now and you would have avoided all the negative reaction from the people. Add to it the ebay hassle and listing fees. I think you're following a really wrong strategy. Ebay is not meant to fixed price sales anyway. The trick with ebay is to list something with a low starting price and have people looking. If you want to do fixed price/ offers accepted kind of thing avoiding ebay and listing directly here or amibay would give much better results with little hassle.

[sprocket]

Add to it the ebay hassle and listing fees. I think you're following a really wrong strategy. Ebay is not meant to fixed price sales anyway.

I've only recently begun using 'fixed price/best offer' listings as a way of accommodating those who've complained about auctions being designed to get every penny out of buyers!

My assumption was that if I gave buyers an opportunity to make an offer and to get the sale over with it would be a way everyone could get what they wanted and it would be quicker.

It seems no matter how you put things out there, there will always be those who are critical and who aren't really interested in making an offer or buying.

I've had many more transactions on ebay (via another account) and elsewhere and find that there are enough of those sales that go through at a high price to make up for relisting.  ..and I've had auctions starting at a low price go without bids as well.  No matter how you do it there will be problems.

as for the negative reaction of some, I've written amiga.org and suggested that ebay posts be separate from marketplace posts and believe that if ebay posts are standardized and supporting information is provided the negative reactions of some will be less....but mostly they'll just be less reason to respond.  Anyone really interested will just make an offer or bid.

[A6000]

Your buy it now price tells buyers the sort of price you want to get for it, if I were in your place I would consider an $80 offer against a $150 BIN price as laughable, which is probably why you got few offers.
I would set the starting price at the minimum sale price and hope it sells for more.

[motrucker]

sprocket wrote:

I've only recently begun using 'fixed price/best offer' listings as a way of accommodating those who've complained about auctions being designed to get every penny out of buyers!

This thread has reached the ridiculous. Specially the bit about market value....
While I am not a fan of this particular card. I do agree with Sprocket concerning eBay. I both buy and sell there. You have to be careful, but you can surely make it work for you.