X-Surf IDE interface and hard disks

[motorollin]

I forgot to mention that I checked the version of scsi.device and it is 104.16, which backs up the theory that this is in fact the X-Surf. Maybe the X-Surf doesn't like scsi.device not being there :-?

I'm not having a good retro computing day :-(

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moto

[Thomas]

I think you are following the wrong trace. "Cannot open scsi.device unit 0" does *not* mean that scsi.device is not there. It means that unit 0 is not there. And that means that scsi.device did not recognise any device on unit 0.

You say, your CD-ROM drive works with xsurf_atapi.device. If you connect it again, you will see that it works with scsi.device as well.

As mentioned above, the IDE port of the X-Surf is very limited. It may well be that all of your hard drives are incompatible with it.

Bye,
Thomas

[motorollin]

Thomas wrote:
I think you are following the wrong trace. "Cannot open scsi.device unit 0" does *not* mean that scsi.device is not there. It means that unit 0 is not there. And that means that scsi.device did not recognise any device on unit 0.

That is what I thought actually. I have just been trying to confirm that scsi.device is definitely the X-Surf, not some remnant of the driver for the Amiga's internal IDE interface.

Thomas wrote:
You say, your CD-ROM drive works with xsurf_atapi.device. If you connect it again, you will see that it works with scsi.device as well.

You're right. I just connected a CD-ROM to the X-Surf, created a CD mountlist using scsi.device unit 0, and was able to use it to access CDs in the drive connected to the X-Surf.

Thomas wrote:
As mentioned above, the IDE port of the X-Surf is very limited. It may well be that all of your hard drives are incompatible with it.

Yes, I have reached the same conclusion now I know I'm definitely using the correct device. This is a real pain since I was planning to use the X-Surf IDE interface for my Compact Flash drive for backups :-(

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moto

[rkauer]

 Erm...

 Moto, why not use a small SCSI HD?

[motorollin]

I want to back up my system as LHA archives on to a FAT formatted compact flash card, which I can then put in to my Mac to store the archives (I don't want to keep them on CF cards as they may become unreliable, and I don't want my backup on an Amiga formatted partition which may be hard to get at if my Amiga stops working).

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moto

[Thomas]

If I understand correctly, you don't have any device on the internal IDE port. So why don't you use the internal port for the CF reader ? It should be faster than the X-Surf anyway.

If you fear the boot delay when scsi.device is enabled, you can keep it disabled and use a disk-based version of it in Devs: for your CF mountlist.

You can use the rumupdatesplit program which comes with BlizKick to create disk-based modules from OS3.9's ROM Update.

Bye,
Thomas

[motorollin]

Thomas wrote:
If I understand correctly, you don't have any device on the internal IDE port. So why don't you use the internal port for the CF reader ? It should be faster than the X-Surf anyway.

If you fear the boot delay when scsi.device is enabled, you can keep it disabled and use a disk-based version of it in Devs: for your CF mountlist.

The boot delay is exactly why I disabled the Amiga's internal IDE interface. I never would have thought about putting scsi.device in DEVS: and using it for the mountlist. I'll give this a go. Thanks!

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moto

[motorollin]

@Thomas
Just wanted to let you know I have done what you suggested and it works great!

Thanks

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moto