Photogenics still available to buy new!

[AJS]

T3000 wrote:
It's good to see that Paul Noland, original author of Photogenics, is still develop/supporting this fine piece of software, eventhough it has been ported to windows... I don't see a link on the main Idruna site to the page for the Amiga version and the page does not display the amiga release version, although DiscreetFX claims that it is version 5.

Photogenics2 was originally distributed by Almatheria, who shanked Paul out of the rights to the program. He spent some time in court securing the rights to the name and program code of Photogenics. Our computer club, STAG, helped Paul distribute/sell Photogenics4 at AmiWest in 1999.

Will I purchase the new version for my Amiga? Eventually. Will I invest 600 plus $ for the windows version? Very doubtful. Besides, I've already spent hundreds on Photoshop upgrades for the Athlon.

That $600 is for the HDR version you can still get the Windows version for $79  actually the HDR is on offer $399 at the moment :-)

[Rob]

@Tenacious

Did the download include a user manual, documentation?

I got a friend to print off the manual on A4 for me and it's about as thick as a typical PC mag, so there's a reasonable amount of reading material included.  Amiga Active did a nice tutorial on it too.

[weirdami]

The last I heard of it, there was some kind of lawsuit happening over the name Photogenics. I guess they won.

[Roj]

Tenacious wrote:
You feel like ImageFX was better or simply in the same ballpark?

I've had every version of ImageFX since 3.0, and I also use Photogenics 5.0. Photogenics is a much better paint package than ImageFX, but IFX is more powerful when it comes to image processing, especially when multiple layers are used.

Photogenics is a little buggy, but for the most part it's very usable. I don't think it's any more buggy than ImageFX is. They both have their moments. Photogenics' drawing tools are more powerful than ImageFX's, and it has a more interactive method of undo.

I have no docs and I find IFX less than intuitive to use without a lot of experimentation.

ImageFX is quirky at first, and I was pretty clumsy with it until I picked up the Catalyzer videos. They're pretty good at introducing a lot of ImageFX's layout and capabilities. I have a large number of notes and diagrams from the times I taught others about ImageFX. If there were enough people who'd be interested, I might assemble them into a usable collection.

ImageFX draws a lot, and I mean A LOT, of power from ARexx scripting. Without documentation, that aspect of the program is lost.

PG does seem more user friendly.

I use ImageFX a lot more than PG, so I've gotten familiar enough with it that it's my first choice. I did pick up quite a bit about Photogenics from the tutorials, but some of its features still seem a little obscure.

[stopthegop]

@Roj

I for one would be very interested in your notes on ImageFX.  Please let me know if you ever decide to assemble such a volume.  Thanks

[AJS]

stopthegop wrote:
@Roj

I for one would be very interested in your notes on ImageFX.  Please let me know if you ever decide to assemble such a volume.  Thanks

You could try this Cecilia ImageFX tutorials on CD

Go on you know you want too :-D
Psss Its on the front Page

[Tenacious]

@ roj

Thanks for the detailed and dis-passionate comparison.  This helps a lot.

[DonnyEMU]

I think they are very different types of products. ImageFX is more like an image processing product with other function. When Photoshop came out the market changed, suddenly things like image processing were expected in a program. ImageFX isn't designed to be, (hmm  how can I put this) "painterly" (in the Fractal Design Painter tradition now Corel Painter) than ImageFX. The price of the Idruna product is cheaper, and I like it as a product.

In the old days of the Amiga, people would see the difference in the direction of these two packages, but I just don't think many current Amiga users are used to sub-genres of graphics programs.

In a world of graphics packages that now try to be all things to all people now, the differences in who this program would appeal to. I would consider this program for anyone who really wants paint type features. If you need to touch up a photo, ImageFX would be your package.

[AJS]

DonnyEMU wrote:
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In a world of graphics packages that now try to be all things to all people now, the differences in who this program would appeal to. I would consider this program for anyone who really wants paint type features. If you need to touch up a photo, ImageFX would be your package.

Actually I use Photogenics for touching up most of my photos, clone tool, tinting, transparency, Titles etc and ImageFX for adding Effects and cropping ,distortions etc

[Rabbi]

I have some questions:

1) Does anyone know why there's no link to this page from Idruna's store page?

2) There's a manual?  Is it in PDF format?  Can it be loaded into aPDF (handles ver 1.3) w/o errors or will I need to print it off on a PC?

3) Which version is it, 5.0?

I do plan to purchase this.

[T3000]

AJS wrote: That $600 is for the HDR version you can still get the Windows version for $79  actually the HDR is on offer $399 at the moment :-)

Shazam! Did not see the $79 windows version. Will defienatly scrape some dough together for that. $400 offer for the HDR windows version... hmmm. Might reconcider that. sooo much for my collage fund. :-D

I dug out my Photogenics 4 cd and am having problems installing it on my A4000D 0S3.5  :-?

[AJS]

Rabbi wrote:
I have some questions:

1) Does anyone know why there's no link to this page from Idruna's store page?

2) There's a manual?  Is it in PDF format?  Can it be loaded into aPDF (handles ver 1.3) w/o errors or will I need to print it off on a PC?

3) Which version is it, 5.0?

I do plan to purchase this.

Hi Rabbi

1) Well you can get to it from the Idruna website but it is obscure and in a very convoluted way (more by luck)  :-o
 
2) Docs and  4 tutorials come in HTML format there are 2 more later ones on the website

3) yes its version 5 (Amiga version should be release 121)

[Rob]

I've added this poll at Amiga World.

[ACK_h8r]

@DonnyEMU

Stop preaching, if people want to buy something buggy and unsupported which has no future then they will do so (like the amigaone). If they don't then there is no need to slag them off as not everyone in this community will kiss ass just to be in the Amiga gang.

Attitudes about products like the one above is why the community is *DYING*

Your lick arse attitude is hell of a lot worse and does more damage than good.